alrighty uh i'll just hand it off to you and hobbies in our spare time is what we've been selected to discuss today
 	
 	
 		well uh the hobbies that i pursue in my spare time are crafts
 		and uh i've been involved in making uh hat stand and uh rag dolls and uh different type hats with um
 		flowers and roses you know and uh that kind of thing straw hats and all that kind of stuff
 	
 	
 		hm
 	
 	
 		and i enjoy it it's relaxing
 		and you kind of get absorbed in it so the time goes by you know before you realize anything's going on
 		and i play the organ sometimes uh just for my own satisfaction  not for anybody else's ears because i'm not that good at it but i like to bang the keyboards once in a while how about yourself
 	
 	
 		oh really
 		well  oh hobbies gee whiz i guess i got too many hobbies so i never have time to deal with them i like photography a lot uh
 	
 	
 		really
 		oh yeah that's neat
 	
 	
 		i used to do that a lot and then i like um  we have a new child that'll be a year old here next week so i'll take a lot of pictures of her you know and spoil them first one you know how that is and um  uh
 	
 	
 		oh that's great
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		i play the guitar and a banjo i mainly play the guitar a lot you know i play it about every night
 		and um i really love that if i had a druther if i could've if i could make it on the road i'd like to play on like a bluegrass band or something because that's
 	
 	
 		oh that sounds nice i like bluegrass too
 	
 	
 		i've yeah i've done it before and when i was in high in high school and college and thoroughly enjoyed it and and it's really a a blast my wife hates it but that's the way life is i guess
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 		that's the hard part right
 	
 	
 		exactly
 	
 	
 		if you can do things together that really helps a lot
 	
 	
 		uh the well yeah we uh she's uh into the aerobics and uh
 	
 	
 		oh well that's good too
 	
 	
 		and and we did aerobics together for about a month and a half and that went over real well but uh that's about it there
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 		oh it's good and it's healthy too
 	
 	
 		oh yeah yeah
 	
 	
 		we do that too we have a uh a treadmill and uh a bicycle and that kind of stuff we try to get twenty minutes like at least three for four times a week you know yeah and we like movies
 	
 	
 		oh that's great
 		that's great
 		yep that's uh spare time with a child it's kind of stressful she's we have uh we're looking for a baby sitter so we've been out twice in one in this year so far by ourselves without the child so it's kind of
 	
 	
 		yeah
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		uh become an issue you could say  um hobbies i like
 	
 	
 		sure
 	
 	
 		messing around in your house building things and you know put cabinets up and those kind of things um
 	
 	
 		oh yeah that's great too
 		uh-huh
 		yeah we did some remodeling when we bought a house we built put a kitchen in and um that kind of stuff and painting and some wallpapering that's fun it is it really is
 	
 	
 		it's really kind of fun
 		especially if your spouse will get in there with you and get dirty yeah
 	
 	
 		yep exactly i like things that uh you know two people can do but i like the quiet of doing things away you know kind of gives you some space for yourself
 		and that's what i find in making the dolls and things that it gives me something that i can create and i like to crochet and knit i made some afghans and that kind of stuff i like doing things with my hands
 	
 	
 		uh-huh sounds like it  do you like to cook
 	
 	
 		that yeah
 		yes i love to cook
 	
 	
 		yeah i love to cook too i'm a
 	
 	
 		Italian food  yeah pizzas and spaghettis and lasagnas and that kind of stuff
 	
 	
 		oh really
 		well we're all skinny farts so i it  so when it comes  i like to
 	
 	
 		
 
 	
 	
 		cook and eat and to have mainly mainly i guess i get the enjoyment out of people eating it and saying man this is really good um
 	
 	
 		yeah
 		uh-huh
 		yeah it is
 	
 	
 		um but it it just
 		work in the garden work around the yard of course
 	
 	
 		do you do barbecues
 	
 	
 		yes we we sure do smoke them and
 	
 	
 		for uh uh uh smoking and all that stuff
 	
 	
 		oh yeah all that hoe down stuff yeah all that stuff that's bad for you
 	
 	
 		yeah yep
 		i i lived in Abilene for a little while
 	
 	
 		oh sure yeah
 	
 	
 		and uh worked in the Abilene plant and we used to go to Joe Allen's Barbecue and oh that was great
 	
 	
 		oh yeah
 	
 	
 		really great they have some nice stuff down there
 	
 	
 		that's uh only way to do it
 	
 	
 		i miss it
 	
 	
 		well yeah it's uh it's uh it's uh there's uh there's pluses to everything but yeah it seems like there's just so many things to do down here i like the sports side i play a lot of racquetball
 	
 	
 		oh yeah
 		oh we did horseback i i did horseback riding too in fact when my children were growing up we always had horses
 		and uh that was kind of for them but they weren't as interested in it as we were you know
 		so uh  that was  a real i'd say probably for maybe fifteen years we dabbled in that you know we always had horses around and i really enjoyed that
 	
 	
 		
 
 		oh that's great sound like you
 	
 	
 		and i was disappointed when i went to Texas i didn't see that many of them yes
 	
 	
 		horses yeah you really don't yeah there's there's a you have to look real hard to see a lot of things besides concrete uh
 	
 	
 		i know i know it's true
 	
 	
 		there's buildings and concrete and a lot of people and that's about it down here and it's uh yeah but uh that's great well sound like you have a lot of nice hobbies there
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 		yeah you too you too
 	
 	
 		well great well look uh i know it's probably late for you uh enjoyed speaking with you have a good weekend bye-bye
 	
 	
 		okay
 		me too
 		okay bye now