well um so um have do you have a son or daughter that's looking for a college uh been through it ah i'm still in it okay no we've uh we've had two children graduate so and i have worked at universities uh-huh so it was a topic that uh seemed appropriate as far as discussion like this right you had you're in the process of planning for or your children are there no i'm i'm i'm i'm still in college i'm still a student oh okay okay all right i'm graduating this May yeah this May well good where are you uh North Carolina State University very good uh uh the uh planning for college tuition and all the associated costs is a tough tough decision at yeah yeah i think it's it's when you're looking for a college that you want to go i think you really should know exactly what you want to be so you can pick the best quality how did you choose North Carolina State i chose it basically that way uh North Carolina State has a reputation for being uh good agricultural school um-hum it's a land grant university right in the area exactly and um they have a good extension service for agriculture and uh i wanted to go into agriculture so i came here yeah and since since i was in you know in-state i pay resident i pay resident tuition so it was also a it was also good for me because you know being a good school plus in-state tuition saved me a lot of money the oh yes it certainly does and familiarity with the area there's sometimes advantages to moving way off and going to a unknown area but uh there's as many right well for example yeah yeah i i think that's very true because for example uh i'm going to graduate school after i finish here and uh i'm going to go to California to stay in the same area yeah uh two reasons for that i think if they even recommend in advanced degrees to uh try a different set of teachers get a different perspective as far as the the advanced degrees they'd like for you to change rather than stay in the same institution that's true yeah yeah i mean they would like for you to stay so that you know they they could keep getting your money but one you know an employer likes to see different schools i think right um-hum and i and i think a very good advisor would uh tell you that it's best for you anyway to get a different uh different set of instructors on it and a little different outlook and plus there are regional differences i think too California may have a different type of emphasis now agriculture changes by region as far as it's emphasis is concerned middle of the country would be wheat land here it's tobacco and uh California it may be right uh more of the grapes and and uh other types of right they have in California they have a lot of heavy metal problems also and a lot of salts because of the valleys very very salty oh yes right that's what i i was interested when i went over there i i uh talked to some people in the university i think also you know um dialogue between university professors helps a lot in decisions because i think that's what really turned me towards that you know the the school that i'm going to is i went and talked to the people in the school and they gave me information which i could not have gotten otherwise and that that really finalized my decision um-hum yeah what is your specialty well i'm graduating with just a soil science degree here in North Carolina but i hopefully will go to California to receive a PhD in uh soil science with a specialization in environmental environmental quality uh-huh which will deal with uh eco-toxicology heavy metals and soils and things like that so away from the production agriculture end of it and more into the soils and you know contaminants um-hum um-hum so i'm kind of branching off into a pretty specific region which i think is going to be a hot topic in the future with you know all these lands and and things that are being spoiled no question and how to how to remediate them and all no question you i'm sure you you and your classmates have been following the uh waste situation in North Carolina and the the absence or facility to handle right especially in the sounds right and it's it's a universal problem you know if you look at uh some countries you expect them to have problems Latin America now with cholera and and a bunch of other problems associated with um-hum waste management the United States you can expect more out of but we still have the same very deep problem of how to take care of our waste we create a bunch now now what do we do with it yeah now that now that it's getting harder to get permits for landfills uh the the problem's pressing down harder than ever yeah and then i think there's a a big mistrust public mistrust as there is with nuclear energy uh they were talking about Chernobyl again this this week because it's an anniversary but i think there's a big mistrust of uh some of the waste management companies in terms of how well they do take care of their product and that's got to be solved i think there has to be public trust in it before you can yes uh i agree with you find a good sight well i wish you luck in California yeah uh thanks a lot it was nice talking to you all right bye okay same here bye