okay is this one of your favorite topics well i love to fish i haven't in the last few years but uh in fact yeah when i married on our honeymoon that's where we went was fishing oh my my my son would love to find a woman like that i think well yeah i really do enjoy it but i like i say i haven't been for years we used when after we got married a couple of years after we got married we got a boat and we used to fish a lot and including you know we skied too but after the kids came we stopped and um now i'm i'm divorced so yeah they have a way they have a way of influencing your life yeah they don't you know and especially when they're little like that it was difficult to have them in the boat we were always worried something would happen so we didn't what type what type of fishing did you enjoy well i liked trolling the best i i mean i like moving so instead of just sitting in one spot and i really do like to fish in the rain um-hum oh is that right yeah i and when it's not pouring i mean but when it's just a light rain i'm i really enjoy that and i find that you we use to catch a lot of fish when it was raining oh yeah do you do you like cartoons do i pardon me say that again cartoons yes cartoons yes one of the my favorite cartoons is a picture of a a fellow in a pouring a downpour raining oh now the boat is half full of water there are beer cans floating all around and the the line is in the boat with him and he's got the biggest grin on his face you've ever seen oh gosh i don't know whether i'd go that far no but when you say you enjoying enjoying the rain that uh you must be in a warm weather climate then well see the thing is when when i i am from originally from Ohio and i met my husband in Iowa and we um-hum he was from Minnesota and we went on our honeymoon to Minnesota so it was well it was in August and so it was warm enough but uh oh i because i don't enjoy cold weather at all so we we uh we lived right by a lake and it was nice yeah have you ever done any the uh ocean fishing no i have not i lived in the Bahamas for a year but i didn't do any fishing we did some scuba diving but that's all no oh i that's that's a nice sport too i think beautiful sights and it yes it's it's it's gorgeous now the only offshore fishing i've done is from the Bahamas and caught a nice big barracuda ooh how nice yeah yeah interesting interesting time i've i've been in the Great Lakes too and caught some salmon there uh-huh but i really enjoy farm pond fishing probably as as much as anything oh i've never fished in a farm pond oh you you can get out and it a fairly large pond with a lot of stumps and everything good black bass fishing um and i enjoy walking around the edge and um trying to select a spot i've even done some uh tube fishing are you familiar with that no uh-huh that's an inner tube with a special seat in it ooh and you wear waders and you have little fins that you kick around so you move move manipulate yourself anywhere you want in a pond oh how wonderful relaxing too huh yeah it's a lot of fun it is and cooling oh that sounds great you know the the uh water below helps keep you cool you may be baked in the sun in the upper half of your body but uh it's it's a nice relaxing way and oh gentle undulations of the water you know is it is nice i think oh it sounds wonderful but fishing is a good relaxing sport if you if you don't have patience i don't know if you would enjoy fishing because you no i know i know a lot of friends are really too hyper to fish they have to be moving all the time i think you have to be able to sit and and just enjoy yourself quietly if you can't do that you're not going to make a good fisherman yeah no and i think that's part of the lure is is just to be uh relaxed and with the world and no pressure not not worrying about whether you catch anything or not right well in this day and age that's wonderful to be able to do that because when we our lives are so stressful so uh do your children fish well real sad to say we don't as much as we i'm i'm divorced and and uh since we've been to Texas we haven't now in Iowa when they were little my son i used to take him fishing and they both have you know gear and we've we've gone um-hum once or twice but and there's just not that many lakes around here that i'd be interested in in going to and so no no you know and uh i just uh we just haven't and not that they i think they both would would like it they have gone with their dad and uh he lives in Arizona now and uh he lives in the Phoenix area and the mountains are real close and he's taken them up to the mountains and yeah trout fishing yeah that's fun too yeah yeah and they've enjoyed it it it's a challenge to learn to use the different equipment a fly rod entirely different technique it is yes and i'm always amazed that you can catch a large trout on a hook that small yeah isn't that it that is amazing isn't it yeah well i can remember when i was trolling i caught a and we couldn't eat this it was a a Rock Bass and of course they're not good to eat but i mean it was it was for me it was like a six pound fish and that was big for me and i was just tickled to death that the oh yeah to catch it we threw it back in but um that was i think the biggest fish i ever caught well you know in Virginia well they they do eat the Rock Bass though but well we don't in Minnesota people just don't they don't eat them for some reason so yeah i think if they if they cut around that red streak in it then you're in good shape um-hum oh is that right see we didn't know that so we just threw it back in so well that's a hybrid right it's a salt water that migrated into the fresh yes it is uh-huh uh-huh yeah yeah and that it was a big thing they call Stripers in Oklahoma oh and Rock Fish i know in Virginia uh-huh and uh probably up up there too then yeah yeah have you ever done any surf casting no that's fun is it um-hum i could stand all day on the surf and you just have a lot of weight on the end of it and you're fighting the undertow so there's some action going on whether it's the fish or not all the time uh-huh and that's a a relaxing time too you would you have to repeatedly cast though in the no no uh-huh no the secret is to cast just over the break of the wave and then the undertow keeps the line moving outward in in you know it stays there for the uh flounder or or some of the other special fish too oh it's good good exercise too oh that sounds great yeah well uh when i grew up when i was growing up my dad was an avid fisherman fisherman and we had a boat and we would go out in Lake Erie because i'm from Ohio what and we would fish that was before it was so polluted and so yucky it was a beautiful lake then and um we would we would fish and and my dad would i can remember even when we were interested weren't interested in when we were younger and we'd play around the the the lake or around oh yeah and we'd go up into go uh Michigan and the rapids up there in Grand Rapids Michigan were just beautiful and he would fish he would get his you know his waders on his long boots and he would go out and we would just play by the water and just have a ball and he would fish and it was so gorgeous um-hum well and that was one of my wonderful childhood memories yeah i hope uh that the future generations have places they can go yeah isn't that scary it is it is and with all the pollution that we do have yeah yeah it it's bad Lake Erie when i haven't been home for several years but the last time i was home i was just so surprised to see how terrible Lake Erie was i mean it just was awful um and it just makes you so sad because at one time it was just a beautiful lake yep and not too long ago really right but but Sally it's been nice talking to you and i hope you get to go fishing soon it sure has well thank you and you have many good fishing days too good night bye night bye-bye