okay Kate uh do you play golf um i have played golf in the past i'm not very good at it even though i'm pretty well sports minded um there's something about holding that club in my hand that i want to hold it like a baseball bat uh-huh yeah yeah so i can putt but i have a terrible time driving right that's very similar to me uh-hum i just uh haven't taken the time to learn the fundamentals of the game i just go out and try to be Joe Athlete and think that i can just uh-huh uh-huh you know use transfer skills from like you said softball or baseball sure and i've got that baseball swing and i hook everything viciously so i have to aim like forty five degrees off to the to the right and hopefully it curves back in and usually i end up uh um-hum uh-huh going from one side of the fairway to the other and not straight down the middle yeah yeah like you're supposed to well i even uh took a golf lesson yeah six weeks i guess worth of golf lessons and and i had a terrible time trying to remember uh where your hands are supposed to be and over this way and under that way and keep your legs this way and it was uh-huh extremely difficult considering how easy it looks when the pros do it and so uh i played for a while that way but i can go play Putt Putt Golf really well that's the kind of that's the kind of stuff i can go for yeah uh-huh yeah do you watch golf on TV a lot um i watch some of the things because my father is an avid golf fan he he watches every game he goes out every single day his whole stance uh-huh the way he walks is a golfer's walk if there is such a thing and so he uh he's gotten me interested in it yeah so i have my own putters and and you know some some equipment but um the only thing that i would probably watch is like things that are local like the Byron Nelson Classic that's coming up uh-huh um and then there's another one out let me see off of one twenty one coming up pretty soon so i like to watch things that are close uh by to see if there's any names that are familiar with Texas oh yeah yeah i we don't have a TV so we don't watch much golf uh-huh no i can't imagine watching much golf without a TV yeah so we don't go out to the local uh uh golf course and watch amateurs very often so uh uh but you know when i was younger when i was into it i'd watch it um-hum um-hum every now and then if if baseball or basketball or something else wasn't on and golf was always the uh um-hum the if nothing else is on i'll watch golf yeah because i don't know it's it's pretty it's neat watching i really enjoy watching the highlights like on ESPN Sports Center when they show the great shots and everything i mean that's fun but i don't i'm not up for watching the whole game like i do for baseball or basketball yes yes um-hum right right yeah well at least with now with the with the sports uh and and the TV is um they can get the camera's just at the time the people are starting to swing so it makes it a little bit faster and um a little bit more interesting but i think it's it's more interesting to go out and watch them yeah uh than it is on the TV and and to follow like one or two people along on the golf course and then you you almost feel like you are in doing exactly what they are doing uh it it's so much more interesting i thought than um uh sitting and watching it on TV i think it's kind of boring yeah huh yeah so you've been in the gallery before um-hum uh on the Byron Nelson Classics um was it no it wasn't last year it was the year before so who'd you follow uh gosh i can't even remember you know all those names kind of go together after a while yeah was it like a big name with a big gallery or was it one of the younger pros or something um let me see because i followed several and i'm trying to think who it is that i was um going along with i don't remember now i mean gee whiz i all i remember was we had tornadoes about the same time and that was the big highlight they were afraid they were going to go down through the center of the the the golf course and that's what i remember the most about that uh but i do remember thinking it was a lot different to be out there yeah uh watching than it was to watch it on TV uh watching than it was to watch it on TV yeah well yeah you're outdoors and you know it's kind of neat that's the only thing that's what draws me to golf is just you know being outside on a large wide open space pretty much um-hum um-hum um-hum and uh well down here it's so expensive i'm from Indiana and up there um-hum i i went to Purdue and you have Purdue golf course and if you're a student i mean you can play eighteen holes for like seven bucks oh wow on a really you know it's a big ten championship course so it's really well kept and everything else but you know down here it's it's incredible i've um-hum i've never golfed down here because it's you know nine holes for ten bucks or something and um-hum and by the time i i drill a you know a half dozen balls into a pond or something you know that's that's an extra five bucks right there and so yeah you know it gets kind of expensive for the young college graduate sure sure well i know uh uh since it's warmer weather down here and you can play almost year round then yeah that's the reason is there's so many people who want to get out and go play golf uh-huh see my parents live in Ohio and my dad what he'll do is uh he will come down here or go someplace else in the South to where it's warm so he can continue playing golf i mean this is what an avid golf person does yeah it is just so fascinating and then everything we get for him is all golf junk you know the golf hat the golf you know clock everything because he's he's just he is he is a freak when it comes to golfing golf clock has a subscription to Golf Magazine or something yeah he uh he's he's really something that's funny yeah so uh has he always been like that or just in the later years no see he um it's only been in about the past five years and he's so good we keep telling him he needs to get into some of those senior tournaments and he says oh i can't get in there with Arnold Palmer and all those other good people yeah but i'm saying yes you could you know and then that's where you usually can make a little money and and profit this way uh because his handicap has gotten lower and lower and lower every single year yeah um-hum so uh but no he hasn't gone to do that yet but we wish he would you know make a little mega bucks and pass it along you know to the family well if nothing else just get out there and rub shoulders with the boys that's right i know get to meet all these stars because i remember sitting on his lap when i was a little girl watching golf he has loved golf really all of his life and but i remember watching it golf with him yeah so yeah this is something that uh he can go and see all these people he's uh got to watch on TV for years and years and y ears and years so well that's neat yeah i think so too so uh you don't see you uh taking up you know and charging being the avid golfer in the near future huh no i think some of my brothers are going to do that i'm a volleyball person myself yeah yeah i love volleyball so i'm on a TI league oh volleyball yeah and uh play with a group of people from here at work but i don't even think TI has well they may have a golfing i don't know they may have a golfing club you know it's possible i've never really well Sherman's a smaller plant but i've never really seen a golf club but okay i've seen a golf club that's funny but uh golfing club uh um-hum golfing club yeah there you go i bet you they do but i just you know i hear about things like the tennis the tennis um teams and and uh volleyball and baseball but i haven't heard of golf but i'm sure they probably do uh-huh yeah well i don't know there just not that many places to play around here from what i hear there's a private club maybe one and there's uh uh-huh the local junior college has a golf course because it used to be an Air Force base so they've got the old Air Force base golf course and it's like oh playing on dirt i mean there's no grass so uh you know it's not too many golfers like there are in Dallas probably oh no uh-huh uh um-hum with more courses and more people and probably higher money better kept uh-huh but i don't know i'm i'm just kind of glad my wife's kind of in to it she's she'll play in it about once or twice a year but that's about it yeah yeah yeah me too it's not uh not something like uh that obsession i think my father has well if it's genetic you'd better be careful i know that's true well it was nice talking with you likewise and uh maybe we'll get hooked up again sometime all right take care bye okay okay take care bye-bye