okay you know it's uh i'm a CPA so i use computer quite a bit uh i'm not sure why they call them sometimes call them personal computers uh i guess they mean just one that's in your home yeah right well yeah actual i think they mean one that's that is uh designed or designated dedicated for one person to use primarily as opposed to uh large mainframe computer uh-huh which you know several people maybe use uh terminals tied to it i guess that's that's my definition anyway okay i guess that's like the ones in TI right um i have an IBM it's uh one they call the XT which is one of the earlier models Prior to that i had uh one that was a Heath Kit computer which is one that i basically built myself oh in your home uh yeah and uh so i've had uh i've had a computer for uh oh about ten years little over ten years i guess now oh uh-huh how do you know about building you own computer well you uh Heath Kit which is uh you know one of these uh electronic stores it's a hobby store place uh-huh and you can go there and buy a kit or at least you use to be able to i'm not sure that you can still buy those from them now but you could buy a kit and build a computer it like have a would have a manual step-by-step manual to go through and put all the parts together was that a little less expensive uh yeah it uh it then it was and of course the computer are so cheap now i'm not even sure how it would how it would compare uh oh back then the computer that i built was uh one you know was a old pretty low level technology wise and uh it cost me oh fifteen hundred dollars i guess to build it huh and it would have cost eighteen hundred or so to buy i think so it was you know it was not a great saving but it was a learning experience any way oh seems like it would be more fun any way my husband gets a kick out of building stuff for his self rather than buying it yeah yeah if uh if he's if he's aware of building you know building electronic stuff he's he knows about Heath Kit probably no he's not into electronics i'm just saying per se he just likes to build stuff but uh not into electronic right but uh you know i had to had to learn a little bit about uh using a solder iron and and that kind of stuff well i i say uh i said basically i built it myself when i got to a certain point i took it to a TI engineer that uh was a friend of my wife's and uh-huh he uh you know he worked with help me finished putting it together you know and make it work right it uh so you know if you don't know much electronics you can you know you have to have somebody with a little electronic background to make it work but uh you know the basic stuff i i did all the basics any way somebody to help do you use your computer for home uh no well i use mine at work i don't i don't even have one at the house any more it's uh i've got it in my office and uh matter fact i'm market for another one uh-huh is that for your house or for your office oh okay no for my home you know so i mean for my for my office so i'm i'm not sure eventually i'll have to i'll probably have one at home too but uh well couldn't you like um i'm pretty sure you can do this have it one in your home that has the same stuff in it as your office does or have it kind of connect it oh yeah oh well you can have them connected by a by a modem if you want to which is a telephone line uh-huh but but you can can have the same software you know the same programs just contains a so that you take your data files from one to the other so that you can use same computer you know for the for the okay right a a different computers for the same project right okay so you know it's and that's that's one thing that i would like to have uh occasionally i need to work at home you know and now i don't have a computer there so you could just bring your disk home and do it you know that's i could if i you know if i if i had a computer there so yeah that was my problem in school i could not write programs um-hum i loved messing with the computer though but i just could not yeah to a certain point i'd just get messed up and i would be totally lost yeah so but uh you know it's uh you know the computer it's uh the you know growing thing in uh you know both home and business i i think eventually yeah i want i'm wanting to go back to school and this time i'll try a lot harder yeah that's but eventually i think uh most homes will have a computer you know for some reason uh either uh-huh well a lot of them more or less close the computers the uh microwaves all have these new little buttons and right yeah just about every thing is getting computerized yeah new cars have computer in them and yeah have you seen that uh thing that shows the maps uh no i haven't seen that but i have heard about it but i haven't seen it i think that's neat yeah but uh i don't know i guess the uh the personal computer is it's really uh going to be a necessity that you know children should learn to use it i was just commenting i teach uh a couple accounting classes and uh i was just commenting the other night that it's uh going to reach the point where um accounting classing in college have to have computer for the students to use you know in every class uh right now i teach over at Brookhaven College and there's only one class that i happen to teach that that teaches the accounting students anything about using the computer if they want to use want to learn the computer they have to take classes outside of the accounting area uh-huh okay now a friend of mine is trying is going for CPA and she is having to take uh-huh or she maybe maybe it's just a preference that she's taking it on herself but she is taking a computer class yeah and uh but yeah it's that's something that's going to be uh a necessity for accountants because you you know it's you can do so much for more work with a computer then you can do you know doing it manually yeah and uh and a lot more accurately also i use the computer to do you know all of my accounting work and of course i write letters on the computer and i do income tax on the computer so it's i use it a lot i do our income taxes too and you're right it probably would be a lot easier if i the use a computer yeah you know it's just it would be if you have a computer you can buy you know some little cheap software that uh that uh you can buy like at Software House here in Richard in uh Dallas at uh over in Addison uh-huh you can go over there and buy an income tax package that will run on a personal computer and do your income tax and it's one of those where you can change things y ou know to see what happens you know you say well let's see i've got some many uh so much of my charitable contributions on my itemized deductions and then you discover that you had more then you thought you did you can go in and change it uh-huh and it changes everything on the return and you don't have to go back and you know change every line with you know the eraser or the and redo everything the uh liquid paper or whatever right huh so it's it's really convenient to have that plus you know you've got it on the computer and it does all the calculations and the math and you know makes for a lot of your errors on the return yeah well so far i've had been able to use the easy form yeah so uh-huh just me and my husband right but uh so now i'm wanting for my little boy's birthday is coming up and i was thinking about getting him just one of those little i know i they've got toy computers more or less just for kids who just starting and he'll be four uh-huh yeah but i've seen it on uh like twenty twenty and stuff whatever where they do have little third graders and stuff working on yeah they uh start are starting real early on the computers when he gets to school he will probably be using a computer uh-huh you know yeah second or third grade probably and uh uh-huh he'll he'll know more about computer then you will and you'll be having to go back to school just too keep up with him probably but i think that's the way it goes with most parents yeah that seems to have to learn have to learn a little bit as they go along you you suddenly discover that your educated when the students are uh-huh a lot well go ahead well it's been a it's been interesting taking uh about computers it's uh that's one of my favorite subjects and uh i really i get into talking about them so don't know much about them yeah so the main thing i didn't i don't even remember them having computers on uh that little sheet um yeah yeah i don't remember i i've checked off a bunch of stuff you know on there i don't remember what all was on there but i've talked about two or three things that i wasn't you know wasn't expecting to talk about so but uh uh-huh well it's been pretty interesting so far yeah yeah so it's been been nice talking to you and uh i guess uh maybe they'll ring us up again sometime yes all righty all right bye-bye okay thanks bye-bye