okay do you have any children uh yes i have a daughter um-hum i don't any children so i'm gonna have difficulty with this topic but uh what kind of things do you and your family do oh okay um well we go out and fly kites and we go fishing and we go to movies hm and we go out to the farm and and uh she likes to pick flowers and look at birds um-hum hm then your kind of family is probably pretty rare now a days i don't see a lot of families fishing and doing things like that that's great well well i'm divorced but that's what when she's with me that's what we do yeah and we color a lot and i read her stories and um-hum that's great yep i think uh a lot of families now for they probably don't spend enough time together you know whether they're yeah whether the parents are together or divorced they don't spend enough time together and and i think that contributes to a lot of why society is going downhill right now is because the basic family unit is uh being destroyed yep just simply because that time isn't spent just doing things like fishing and because that i think that when you spend a lot of time with each other you communicate a lot and the communication helps you build on your uh helps just just build your family um-hum yeah and even even when i was when i was uh living with her and we did stuff then too so um-hum yeah that's pretty to me that's pretty rare yeah i know i think that whenever i do have children i'll i'm gonna try as hard as i can to see see that we spend a lot of time together you know maybe just even if we just rent a movie and watch it together just to make sure that everybody's not going out and doing and their own thing all the time um-hum and you know that's good sometimes because you need to you know get away but uh i don't think you you should spend too much time outside at the detriment of of losing your family the family unit yeah that's right because then you never get to know them either they're all grown up and their you know um-hum yeah yeah and as i understand it i don't know i haven't experienced it but you know kids these days are growing up so much faster yeah um-hum you know once they hit like ten or eleven or twelve you know you've pretty much lost them yeah they're out doing stuff by that time um-hum yeah so um do you think that you do you think that your family's pretty rare in that you do a lot of things or just the relationship between you and your daughter yeah yeah i really do because because i don't see many other this and when whenever we go to the park or something sometimes on the weekdays we'll see other families um-hum but not usually on the on the uh weekends we don't see very many in comparison what do you think is the key to just bringing the American family back together what what kinds of things do you think can well i think they ought to turn off the TV for one thing yeah that's true that's and and go out and do stuff you know because she always likes to do things whenever the TV's off you know she'll forget about the TV completely hm right i think that's the first thing a lot of people do and i know i'm guilty of it like i came in from work today first thing i did was turn the TV on because i taped the stories from earlier today um-hum right and i like to watch them but i think that's that is a big problem television it's it's it's too static you know it's something that you can do but you there's no thinking involved no motion you know and i think i think that's another reason why people are uh so health conscious now is because America's becoming really a couch potato society um-hum you know people aren't doing anything just sitting around you know no thinking involved and now i think i think people are trying to get out of that at least and that um you know there's a lot of um it's it's becoming really health conscious and that people are you know starting to look out for cholesterol and things like that trying to get out and workout more often and jog and walk and different things like that um-hum and that's probably good you know if you get your family involved in exercising and maybe playing tennis or something like that that also helps that's also something you know family oriented that everyone can do yeah hm yeah but when was uh when she was here last summer we played tennis but she hasn't brought her tennis racket over lately hum-um and we how how old is she she's five um well she has we we just been hitting the ball on the ground yeah yeah she can't hit it in the air yet and then we kick the ball we play like soccer we'll you still have a lot of time before she gets up in years that's good that's good um-hum yeah hm okay well it was very nice talking to you nice talking to you okay bye-bye okay bye-bye