well what kind of garden do you have well we've tried having let me turn the TV off we've tried having uh vegetable garden and i'm from Chicago and the way that uh bug bugs and weeds grow down here is very different from Chicago and we have tried several years in a row and we've given up between the fire ants the pill bugs the weeds the drought and a hundred and ten degree heat all Summer and we just kind of uh decided to go with a few flowers and give up on the vegetable garden oh we had to put so much poison out on everything that we thought who'd want to eat that stuff um-hum um-hum you know so we have really been frustrated by our gardening attempts here and uh if you really water a lot you can do it but you know when you have to pay for water it really gets to be an annoyance to have to water constantly um-hum do you have a lawn so right now we're just yeah we we just try to maintain the lawn and the shrubs right now and the trees we have a peach tree that's the extent of our um contributing to our food supply but that's nice to have but yeah yeah so what do you do up there oh yeah well um actually it we've sort of had an ideal Spring um and um the the peonies have been out for now about three weeks and the roses have been blooming for two weeks and the grass is uh this lush green and of course i've got lots of weeds in mine because i don't use any poison either oh wow yeah but um you know i just keep looking at and i say jeez you know this is the first year it's been so perfect really gosh but and my garden you know my tomatoes are two and a half feet tall oh boy the plants and that sounds wonderful you know i'm going i'm going gee this can't you know we'll have a freeze if you don't have a frost you'll be all right that's what i remember from living up north is that you'd get everything set and then you'd have a frost and half the stuff would get frostbitten and you'd have to well that's it last year i think it was you know my peonies were were budding in January and you know there was no way that was going to make it and sure enough you know we did had really mild weather until wow uh-huh i think it was May or something and then you know everything just got hit hard oh boy that's frustrating so but yeah it it's interesting and i enjoy gardening my son does the mowing of the grass oh yeah my husband does that thank goodness because i that's not a pleasure for me i don't think that's a pleasure for anybody the mowing the mowing i love gardens that are well tended and i just there's been a few different places i've lived where i've just i don't know whether it's little old ladies living there or what but you could just tell that they had a love uh a love affair with their gardens with beautiful wild flowers and just i love the host of colors that just keep coming all you know year long and uh i i was in England once and that's one thing that impressed me so much is no matter what size yard somebody had they had a beautiful garden in it you know it could be three feet by four feet or something um-hum so i do admire that but i haven't really put uh too much energy into it course we have two little kids are two and three years old so oh they help you so that has put a crimp in my every activity other than diapers and laundry i'll tell you oh dear oh but that's nice you know i mean the peach tree is is a start and that yeah that's really lovely i would love to have different fruit trees it's it's been wonderful to have the peaches they're just delicious and we we have we have still have to spray some but we don't have to just asphyxiate asphyxiate ourself with the poison which is good because i just i can't see the point in doing that and eating anything out of it afterwards right what about tomatoes aren't they pretty hardy um we've tried them but again it's just like the sun scorch we've tried them in kind of halfway in the shade and halfway in the sun i mean it's just oh see you really really have to be prepared to water constantly during the Summer people that have been successful out here have done this drip irrigation um-hum oh and installed that and um that's really what makes the most sense because you don't have to use so much water and um-hum it really does the job but it's just amazing how hot and dry and for how long it gets out here and if you're not really committed to it i mean me i'm you know i'm real committed to it for about a week and then i forget about it for a week and then i go oh yeah i need to do something and by then it's burned up you know uh-huh it's just too distracting right now with these little ones in our lives so maybe when i get older i'll find uh some joy in that well i would assume assume too i mean you've got three or four months you're talking about of yeah of bad weather yeah it just gets so hot so fast here we don't have really a Spring or a Fall and it just um um-hum immediately heats up so that's one thing i miss about living up north as i remember um you know the long Springs and long Falls and the cooler weather you know it was really nice um-hum we always had gardens when i was uh living in Chicago in fact my mother once tore up our entire back yard and redid it i'll never forget got my stepfather to put in uh a waterfall and a little pond in one corner i mean that was like the most energy invested in anything in the whole time i ever knew him they remodeled the entire back yard then they sold the house and got divorced so i don't know what that says about it all oh dear oh but she used to love to do stuff like that sounds like it would have been pretty yeah it really was i enjoyed it there but maybe when the boys get a little older we'll do some more planting because they like to see things grow they've done a couple of little seed projects and so i think it will be fun for them oh sure yeah yeah sure well it sounds like you you've got your hands full oh yes they're both running around now and you know gardening isn't isn't high on the list but it's not off the list yeah well it's very therapeutic i think really to get out there and dig in the dirt you know um-hum they certainly enjoy that part of it it's just trying to keep anything i planted bulbs last uh Fall on the side guard and when i went out there in the Spring and the first day they came out the little one went and pulled all the flowers off and the flower petals were scattered all over the walk oh he thought what are these fun toys that mommy put out here with all these colors for me to play with we use to didn't eat them i mean i guess i could be thankful for that right maybe next year they'll do better yeah really if they survive this year oh dear oh well good luck to you nice talking to you okay well thanks it was nice talking to you too bye-bye okay bye-bye