okay there we go so do you play golf at all okay great yeah i do i'm a player i i'm kind of embarrassed i'm talking to a man cause i'm sure that you are you play a lot more than i do oh really actually i don't no uh i uh when i was younger i played a little bit and i was horrible so i just stopped playing oh well my husband is is a very good golfer he's got like a six handicap wow that is real good so um and he's been playing since we we've been married for twenty two years so i had to start playing because he was you know such an avid golfer so i've been playing now well i have had clubs for for twenty years you know but but i really enjoy it so i i had to check that you know and and uh and uh talk about it well have you played recently wow so you've been playing no actually i don't even know if i checked that or not to be perfectly honest um it seems to have been a mistake i don't know um oh oh that's okay yeah i haven't played in a long time um when i was uh about five or six years ago my dad who plays every now and then took me out with him and and i basically um i had a horrible slice or hook i forget which one it was it wound up tossing the ball into the trees virtually every time yeah yeah yeah the slice goes to the right and the hook goes to the left i think yes i was slicing actually and as it turns out uh i went and took some lessons for a while because i just i would lose so many balls and it uh make it a horrible time for everybody i went and took some lessons and i got a little bit better but i still but then i sort of yeah yeah yeah you know time you know went went back to school and didn't have time and this and that and and the only thing i do now is i occasionally go out to a driving range and hit a couple of balls and see what i can do and i yeah i think that's really a good thing to do so where are you in your life i mean are you in school oh okay at the University of Rochester oh great and i still have this slice i'm a graduate student yeah yes as a matter of fact um so i don't have time to do much else except for graduate work yeah yeah so i so i hang around this way and uh occasionally uh uh a bunch of us i have some friends who are pretty avid golfers golfers so we'll go out and we'll uh we'll we'll play you know um sure uh-huh and you don't have the time you don't have the length of the playing time that we do no i have i have very little at the moment i have very little playing time when i when i go on vacation my father and i uh play a little bit but i don't you know we play a par a par three nine hole course is because yes oh that's my favorite kind to play because uh for a woman it's really nice to play a yeah my a par three course because that's my i can't hit a driver very far and in fact i don't even like to use a driver i use a three iron off the tee because i have more control over it yeah um uh-huh and i can i can just have better contact with the ball that way so i'm still using a three iron and my husband trying to get me into using a you know like a high number wood instead right but those are uh still not your favorite huh no it's not my favorite but i i uh i enjoy i i really do i think i'm going to like golf the the older i get and the more time i have to play i we have three teenage daughters one oh wow so so you must be very busy one is uh yeah yeah i'm very busy i have a part time job and and during the year i don't play much golf but i'm when i'm we're on vacation i love to play just like you said um and uh we got to play in Monterrey in California uh right you know along the Pacific Ocean this past spring and that was i told my husband that was the way to play you know that was i would if i could play there every time i want it was it was great really a a neat experience miniature golf there's my game uh miniature golf there you go putt putt miniature golf is great yes well that's the thing my kids like to do that with you know on dates and stuff but golf is um we we we probably are talking about golf because i did check it you know uh i don't i don't i don't know i may have actually i may have just checked random things i don't i don't recall anymore well yeah if you ever played i mean i feel like anybody that's ever played golf can talk about it and maybe if you can even talk about it if you've if you've um watched it on TV right yeah we actually we have a very very um we had the uh yeah tell me about your clubs up there what well we had i haven't played around here too much we have a very good one called Locust Hill though there uh the L yes the LPGA comes here every year the Rochester International and then we had a PGA actually a very big PGA uh tour stop here last year Locust Hill uh-huh right oh great and it actually um they say the the i haven't played the course but they say the course is very is is is pretty tough pretty challenging uh-huh and it's um not only that but it's exceedingly well kept apparently because oh yeah those those are the comments i kept hearing from the pros you know they kept saying you know we we hear you know on on television so granted that it is biased but they keep saying it's just wonderful uh the course is so well maintained and you know it it it rained through half the um uh-huh tournament so people had to finish it down and stuff but they still the grounds keepers were absolutely wonderful about getting things back up again and this actually when when the um oh yeah when the LPGA came here i guess that was about a week and a half ago it was just it it takes over the whole town you know it's all over the news and lots and lots of people take off work uh-huh oh sure yes yeah to go and watch them yeah to go to go and watch the the uh the ladies play so i mean i think it's actually wonderful to see the ladies yeah i'm sure the people love golf up there like they do down here i mean people are just crazy golf is just it's just the coming thing i mean a lot of people are just crazy about it yeah it seems to be it seems that a lot of people are really you know either um either you haven't played it yeah or or you you've played it and you sort of stink like me and you sort of play every now and then or you well it's it's just such a difficult thing i mean it's i just i watch my husband and he's he was a professional athlete he he's a very good athlete and he's got the coordination that God given coordination and he just struggles yeah yeah you know all the time to um to master this game yeah well same here i mean i'm a brown belt in karate at this point in time and uh and and i can't and i can't hit a golf ball you know i oh my really yeah because it well i watch my husband swing and his swing you know when i compare to the pros is so it's ridged it's like he's trying so hard it's not that flowing movement you know uh-huh right that's because he's probably doing what i do worrying about is my head straight is my arm right is this correct am i holding correctly stuff like that yeah yeah or if how how far he's going to hit it i think you know and i worry about that you know oh i've just got to get this drive you know really far i've got to hit it a nd then so yeah well that that's interesting yeah oh yeah oh yeah yeah yeah i have this nasty habit of doing things like either turning my head at the last second or or just keeping my arm wrong yep or yeah turning your head is probably the most common thing for women they say you know you are always so anxious to see where it goes uh-huh is it right ex actly exactly it's just like i i don't watch the ball die i have to it took me a long time to learn to wait until the ball was in the air before i looked up yeah yeah i have to do that especially even more so with a short iron than a long iron you know than with a driver or something because those short irons it's just you want to look up oh on his driver yeah because you are getting close to the green and you want to hit the green and you know that's why yeah so it depends on where it's going that that is certainly true thank you can i don't know whether i'm supposed to ask questions about i'm not supposed to ask questions about this whole procedure i know that i i well when i that's okay go ahead i it's no big deal do you get get um reimbursed for the calls you make or the calls you talk on too both okay okay well i really didn't know so i was just both i believe so i i i actually don't know i get sort of random reimbursement every now and then and don't really yeah don't really figure it out i mean until afterwards okay because this is only my second day doing it and i just didn't i didn't know and that was the detail yeah we i just started yesterday oh really i've been doing this for awhile actually and it seems like it's been a while and they just i just get these random checks in the mail every now and then and my wife and i both do it as a matter of fact have you oh good yeah i haven't i see i see and we both just sort of get these random checks in the mail and to be honest i i really have not been accounting i just sort of figured well it's going to work you know if it works it works so yeah uh-huh well my uh