okay hi Nancy well do you do a lot of dining out no um we don't although we enjoy it um we do it more when we have company come um what about you uh-huh well we do some some dining out um i i do a lot of cooking so um mostly like when we go out you know it's my husband and i i we don't go out too often as a family um unless it's like a fast food kind of thing but um but we do enjoy dining out one of our favorite places here in in the Dallas area is Atlantic Cafe i don't know if you have you ever been there i've heard of that but i haven't been there um where about is that um well actually there's the Atlantic Cafe and Cafe Pacific and uh oh okay i i've been to Cafe Pacific have you the now that's down in uh Highland Park it's Highland Park Village did you like it right yes um oh i love it before before we moved to the area my brother uh lived in Dallas for a number of years and we came up one time when my father was visiting and we all ate there and oh their seafood was wonderful uh-huh oh it is it's fabulous it really is good now where is the Atlantic Cafe Atlantic Cafe is down on i believe it's on McKinney oh okay um and originally originally the two the the guy who owns the Cafe Pacific and the the guy who owns the Atlantic Cafe were partners in the Atlantic Cafe and then they they separated and the guy started Cafe Pacific and i loved them both i really do i think they're wonderful that's our favorite you know what we'd really like if if we just have a a casual evening is Houston's have you been there no um but i've heard that's really good too and it's wonderful the only thing is you have to wait you have you have to expect to wait at least an hour so you have to go knowing you're going to be sitting there there for an hour waiting to get in and oh as long as you know that it's okay but they have i think one just about the best prime rib oh um anywhere in the area i love it oh okay but uh-huh and my husband really likes their ribs so it's hysterical we go in and we sit there for an hour waiting to get in and then we get there and we don't even look at the menu i know right away what we what we want yeah yeah you know right away what you want well we really enjoy prime rib too and uh actually the the Steak And Ale out here um we've gone to uh my in-laws also enjoy prime rib when they've had some of their specials on Sunday Monday or Tuesday night and uh the time we went the prime rib was really good uh-huh uh-huh was it really i've never i've i've been there for like you know lunch but i've never been there for dinner and it was good yeah uh-huh yeah yeah oh that's great that's great another nice place for for prime rib is Baby Doe's oh i've heard about that too but no we've uh i guess we eat out even less than i realize Maxwell's nice have you been there oh and i didn't think we ate out very often Baby Doe's is nice and one place i'd never been that i would really like to go to oh uh is Lawry's i've heard that's real good Lawry's Prime Ribs yeah yes i'd i had heard that too um i've i've never been there but i've heard it's real good have you been to the little uh not for prime rib but the Cafe De France um right here on Central Expressway yes yes actually they have one in Richardson that i've been to uh they have real nice lunches have you have you been there for lunch or yeah oh okay yes uh primarily lunch well and breakfast sometimes but uh during the week they often have a a limited menu choice but uh very reasonable complete dinners for six ninety nine that included the soup and or salad really really entrees and accompaniments and dessert and uh the my husband and i like veal uh a lot and their veal dishes have been good we've tried uh-huh different ones when they've had them as one of the the specials um-hum have you ever been to Biffin's i keep hearing about it i keep hearing the advertisements of it and and they keep saying you know oh it's wonderful it's wonderful i have not been over there and i was thinking you know it's supposed to be a family place i yes no over near Plano Super Bowl and uh i've i've not been there right and i haven't either uh one place and i've only been there for lunch but um i went with a friend and we met her husband um down on Greenville down near the Highway Twelve area is Gershwin's i've been there oh i we just we it was and we had the uh we both enjoy mushroom soup and Linda had told me they had the best mushroom soup and they did it was wonderful but um that was nice and we just had soup and salad so we could make room for the dessert uh which was a chocolate sack i don't know if you tried but or something oh i've heard of it where where it's made it's like it's like a it's all chocolate like made like a paper bag and it's filled with what whip cream and and strawberries and something yes it yes it had a sponge cake and whip cream and it had strawberries kiwis and raspberries in a raspberry yeah oh uh puree and we shared one the three of us and it was plenty because it was very rich but uh i wished i'd had a camera it was beautiful oh oh oh i bet it was i bet it was uh the last time we went to Cafe Pacific it was Father's Day and we took another friend with us and oh uh for dessert we thought we had just stuffed ourselves and so we had they had uh like a berry assortment it was it was raspberries and blueberries and and strawberries on a plate with like a custard on the bottom oh and you know they they did like the raspberry puree just kind of like in a in a decoration on the you know how they do the plates real fancy with the decorations and then piled the berries and shaved chocolate on top of it and it was outstanding it was really really relatively simple but oh it was good it was really good yes yeah oh it sounds wonderful well that's uh one of the things the that i do enjoy when you get a good restaurant uh i love fresh berries and their uh their fruits are always exceptional i don't i'm know they must have a special source for getting them because even at the Farmer's Market uh you can't find them like that and you can't find them yeah yeah yeah yeah you know i i'm originally from Connecticut and uh i was home a few years ago and my sister and brother-in-law were going to take us out for dinner and i was really amazed you know the the restaurants up there were kind of quaint you know they were real real pretty but they lacked the service and they lacked the atmosphere the just the i don't know the restaurants down here seem like they have uh i guess there's so much competition that they really have to be good uh-huh and i thought i would really miss that i would too because well i guess because we don't go out very often when we do go out um in a way it's like a little mini vacation i guess and uh it is it's a whole experience of course you want the fo od to be good but the atmosphere and service i think are important uh too uh-huh and you know in order to survive in this area i think they have to be good because the ones that aren't so good don't just don't make it yeah um that reminded me of a place for lunch that's a little off the beaten track but it is wonderful it's called Cafe Max and it's at Plano Road and Campbell they have the most wonderful salads they do what they call a salad sampler which easily could feed two or three ooh really