okay while i was waiting for you to connect i i thought of a couple of menus i decided it'd to be if it's informal or not you know if it was informal i'd probably choose something i mean just like hamburgers or steaks out on the grill um-hum um-hum because that's a lot of fun especially this time of year where it's so nice out yes um it was formal i'd probably go with something like a chicken breast or lasagna or something i'm not i'm not into formal dinner parties but i see i'd probably go with lasagna a green salad and garlic bread so what what do you use for cookbooks um i have a Pillsbury cookbook i got when i was married but it's kind of the bible of cooking for me then i have some from like church um-hum um-hum that are more family recipes that are more useful you know budget cookbooks but um-hum um-hum and of course you get a lot from when you're growing up um-hum um i cook a lot the same as as my mom did of course i've added several different recipes but what would you serve or what would you right well i i i think we come from from different backgrounds um so the the well that's good i i i start with different you know have different perspectives that you are i find the Joy of Cooking to be a remarkably useful book to to fall back on because it has almost everything in it um-hum but on the other hand it's not very inspiring uh it's a good reference when you need to dig something up uh-huh what we've find very useful is a a book called The Thirty Minute Cookbook i think that's the title uh by Marion Burrows huh uh which has recipes which allegedly can all be prepared in thirty minutes you know the whole meal yeah that would be wonderful in these times and so she's yeah now now i i find that the cutting up of the food and all that really makes it take a little longer than thirty minutes yeah either they're really fast or but but they're but they're but they're interesting they're interesting menus um uh-huh combinations that you wouldn't have normally thought of uh-huh um what's one of your favorites um gee the one i had most recently was was one that was had she she describes as Jim Beard's favorite um summer menu or something and it consisted of uh grilled kielbasa sausage um a uh-huh potato salad with olive oil and uh some tomatoes that had been chopped up with onions and curry powder and probably some yogurt was in there wow sounds pretty good um and that and that was you know that's that that's certain you can do in thirty minutes yeah but there are a whole lot of you know i mean i i would recommend you look at that book if you're if you are a busy person Thirty Minute Cookbook yeah those Thirty Minute Cookbook that sounds fun i find a lot of the cookbooks that i don't know that you buy over the counter ask for really strange ingredients or things i don't keep on hand all the time um-hum and i have young children and our budget's set you know at this time but i want to use simple recipes that i have things on hand i don't have to run to the store to buy um-hum or look for something i haven't heard of so that's why sometimes i shy away from uh more of a traditional cookbooks but yes yes um-hum but well it was interesting talking to you it's a fun subject food is one of my favorite things too yes anything else you wanted to add well you had said dinner you know you know what would i put together for a formal dinner we had we had some friends over as recently as Saturday night and and um oh wow um-hum put here here the inspiration was a combination of Julia Child for the dessert well you know a chocolate mousse recipe um-hum that's good and a sort of palate cookbook which has a recipe for a thing called chicken Marabella uh-huh um which is this wonderful thing you can do um basically you're baking baking chicken in a in an open pan um having marinated it first hand my my wife did this part so i don't remember all the details but it's marinated in olive oil and some seasoning uh-huh uh-huh um and cooked with some olives and some and some prunes uh there's a little bit of brown sugar in there and it bakes up it's a delicious thing and it's easy that sounds good comparatively so i that sounds really good um i'm sorry i just love food it sounds like you guys are a little more gourmet than i am i'm pretty simple right now but well maybe we had a little more leisure time to do it i don't know yeah that's probably that's true i have little ones and we and they won't eat you know too many different foods right now so yeah i found my kids were very frustrating when they were little yeah in terms of their tastes yeah on the other hand sometimes it was easy they'd you know canned ravioli was was one of their favorites and so it was easy to yeah spaghetti's a pretty staple every other week or so so and it goes a long ways too so open a can of ravioli or yes well nice talking to you Cheryl all righty we'll talk to you later maybe okay bye