kind of options do you have in your work uh as far as other than salary like the fringe benefits um we get of course insurance paid we get our sick leave and and holidays paid um-hum that's nice uh earn vacation and uh of course the work place is is uh very uh it's a very nice area to work in um-hum um how about you well we don't get much you don't no we don't um we have to pay for our own insurance um-hum and we you know we do get the vacation but we don't get sick pay until we've been there a year um-hum and then um i think it starts after four days um-hum if you've been gone five consecutive days then you get one day of sick pay um-hum and uh um it's real tough the for benefits the sick leave is according according to the status the way you're employed it has something to with the the way you earn your sick leave and uh you don't automatically get it uh-huh depends on your status right uh but uh really can't complain course the cost of uh living keeps going up salaries remain about the same and your medical benefits go up also that's the truth uh-huh if you can get some good medical benefits it makes a big difference it it surely does especially if you have a family um-hum right i don't but i know when you have children and you don't um-hum it can get to be quite expensive yeah i don't have any children but i do have my husband gets um insurance paid through his company um-hum but it's still cheaper for me to pay for mine through my job than it is to get onto his is that right um-hum gee i i didn't realize that so until he's been there a little longer then maybe i can you know get into that uh-huh but a little better but um uh-huh right now well do you think then salary is the most important no i really don't i really think that benefits okay um help out a lot um-hum you know with the positions um uh benefits you know like you said are are almost better you know that's a lot of pay that's true if you thought if you think about health because i think my husband and i went to um get health insurance from an outside agency once um-hum and it would cost just me alone two hundred dollars a month yes to get basic health insurance and if you think about that on top of your pay it makes a big difference i know that my parents recently retired well not recently maybe the last six eight years um-hum and uh they had to uh buy a policy until something kicked in at a certain age and they were paying an enormous amount of money per month uh-huh it is unbelievable in order to maintain it really is and then my mom and dad have that Blue Blue Cross Blue Shield and i think that goes up every month um-hum oh yeah that is just something else um-hum because they're you know at the retirement age and right and that's something too that's just unbelievable i know some of the companies when you do retire you're able to carry forward your retire your insurance benefits oh well that would be great wouldn't that be wonderful that would be nice yes it would but uh i don't know i don't know what else would there be besides your insurance and your holiday paid and yeah my my husband gets uh life insurance dental insurance and um life and dental and and health yeah and then he also gets legal help legal aid oh uh-huh and he also gets like he's entered into a credit union and oh yeah we have that and and all that that kind of helps out uh now that's true now we've started the EA where you can um if you have like a mental health problem uh-huh a drug problem or what have you uh mentally they they will provide services for that now too and that's wonderful uh well that's nice um-hum my my sister where she works has the HMO oh yes uh-huh which is something that's you know it's nice but you know it's great because you pay five dollars and you go um-hum and and your medicine is five dollars but if it's not an emergency you wait three months is that right well to get in um-hum that is um trying to think which one that is but i'm not it's a real popular one hum is it like Cigna or but um Kaiser Kaiser Kaiser yes well we have that option at at work uh to choose that or to stay with our our company uh-huh um-hum that uh TI has desired to administer the insurance program uh-huh but uh you can either go with the HMO or stay with with Aetna um-hum yeah i i'm going with Aetna that's what i'm i'm staying with well i'm just going to stay with the um you know i can go to my doctor i think i pay two hundred and fifty dollar deductible and that's it um-hum but yeah because she you know was trying to get into like an eye doctor or something like that and if it's not an emergency you wait for quite a while to get in um-hum well see now your eye doctor's paid for through the HMO yes yes ours isn't well i don't know about the HMO but through Aetna it is not covered no it's not yeah my isn't either but through the HMO it is oh that's interesting and i think eyes and and about every doctor you could about