okay uh i guess uh you have any uh favorite foods well i like to eat um i like to bake a lot i'm not a gourmet cook but um just enjoy a lot of old-fashioned cooking um-hum yeah i i used we used to get the uh magazine Gourmet and uh stuff like that uh i i did try um-hum a few of the the recipes in there and well how did those those turn out uh well i made a a um a bread pudding uh fancy style and it came out really good um-hum well that sounds good my son takes the Gourmet um or the Bon Appetite yeah uh a magazine and he has prepared several dishes uh and they've turned out really well one of those is uh was i don't even i don't even know what the name of the recipe is to this point but um it was just beef cooked with a a lot of wine and and uh all kinds of spices the rosemary and those kind of things and it turned out really really well um-hum i see yeah i i do a lot of i did i've done some uh you know things like chicken and and stuff in there but i i deviate from it i i never like to follow sometimes if there's something uh in there that i i don't like i'll substitute it with something else and um-hum and so uh i like to experiment well well i do too uh in fact uh lot of times i will just uh decide on a a meat and then just put some things around it add some gravies or or um uh sauces and um-hum the the thing i've found that's bad about that if i don't write it down while i'm being creative and it turns out wonderfully a lot of times the next time i think about it i don't have that recipe in mind i can't exactly remember exactly how i fixed it yeah so i've learned that when i am creative like that that i try and make sure i write that down um-hum um one of the things that i have had a lot of fun doing is collecting recipes uh well not really a i don't have lots but i have collected a few recipes from restaurants and uh we have um i don't know what part of the country you're from in but i'm in Dallas i'm in the northern area up here in Wisconsin Minnesota okay well i'm in Dallas Texas and um here for years and years we've had a waffle shop downtown it's closed now but they had famous waffles and i happen to have that recipe right in front of me which is really um doesn't look like a heart healthy recipe at all but it's delicious if you're into waffles yeah uh well i i like waffles but i usually go to restaurant and eat them um-hum um-hum i uh i don't even have a waffle iron well you need one of those for sure but it has um like milk and it has half half-and-half in it yeah and uh course real butter and i like all those things that aren't good for you the me too me too and i'm beginning to show it too yeah i uh i mean we we do use a lot of the the margarines and that but i do miss actual butter um-hum i don't uh use butter unless i do some special things uh usually around the holidays huh and i tend to um feel like i can justify use the use of butter during that time uh not only just you know to put into the recipes but to serve on the table too yeah well i i know it's something that my wife picked up was uh we uh made some um butter from uh you just take heavy whipping cream um-hum and you keep churning it until it turns to butter so well i've done that a couple of times not on purpose yeah i did that by accident a couple of times one of the things that i think i'm going to try this um uh this year for Thanksgiving is i um i've talked to a a gentleman who prepares turkeys by deep frying them have you heard of that no he deep fries the turkeys whole in a peanut oil and he says that um and i haven't tasted them um but he claims that they are juicy and just very very good um he prepares he can prepare up to a thirty two pound turkey uh with the method that that he uses which is just a big vat with you know lots and lots of the the peanut oil um-hum yeah so i think that i think that's um