all of our children are um uh well two of them are back in the house now but they're all grown twenty one and over uh-huh so um and how did you spend time with them when they were young i guess like everybody else soccer games and all sorts of games and carpools and traveling and um they we seem to be together enough um-hum well um was there was always one parent here at least because um we'd never usually leave together um-hum and i usually work teach at night and my wife was here in the daytime and i mean at night and then i was here most of the day if they were when they were here so they didn't spend a lot of time by themselves how many children do you have oh um-hum three two girls and a boy um-hum well i had two boys and i'm a grandmother now so my children are grown also and they live away from me so i don't see them much but so oh you are well we had uh that those they were all away and now there's uh one's coming back from college and the other one has just graduated and stayed back home so uh-huh oh i i tried to spend a lot of time with my children when they were young we spent lot of value time um creating things and building things together i feel the families watch too much TV today um-hum oh absolutely yeah that's the truth we didn't have a TV for three and a half years when they were in school early school for some reason and they did so much better and then we went back to TV's um-hum you can just see it that well i tried to put a limit on it when they were in school to so they could only watch so many hours per day of TV so um-hum where'd your kids go to school well we traveled we moved around quite a bit so they went to a lot of different schools oh they weren't here in north Dallas huh oh no they did go a year in Palestine uh-huh but we did move around quite a bit so yeah well i don't know that i i just uh that's that that TV's probably one of the problems and then both parents working and but right right uh that's a i don't think a good situation but i don't imagine it'll change i don't think so either it takes two incomes now anyway right so uh but i feel that i didn't get to spend as much time with my children as i could have or as as i should have i i was a working mother and you probably didn't if that's right if you had to work uh-huh uh it's just almost impossible um-hum especially when they get up to the age where they have so many things they want to do on their own so um-hum i remember the things that they really liked my oldest son he liked kites he always wanted always building kites and working on those he loved kites um-hum so uh well my all three of mine ran sports so we spent an time lot of time with their different sports activities because they all played and uh uh-huh now they're all in college or one two one out and two in still in college so well mine they were in the music end of it instead of sports they did my oldest son did play a little football and soccer but i had them in the band they were playing horns in the band um-hum yeah so well we probably if they're alive and kicking we probably did did a decent job yeah nobody's perfect all you can do is your best and right shit absolutely that's true uh-huh so anyway well well i have three grandsons now and i one of them uh two of them's in California and one of them's in Arizona and i'm gonna get to see them at Christmas time so oh great yeah i uh it's gonna i'm gonna enjoy that i would hope so they're all little they're little kids so but i bought little things for them to work on and to try to keep them busy um-hum yeah that will be yeah that'll that'll be fun look forward to that you're gonna fly out there no i'm going to drive to Arizona uh hum oh you are ooh i've done that a few times that's a tough drive it's worth it to see my family sure you just gonna try to spend spend the the uh spend the night somewhere oh yes uh-huh well we always stopped at Pecos that seemed like like it was a good i have a sister in New Mexico so i'm gonna stop there at my sister's uh-huh oh yeah well that'll be great so well anyway it's good to talk to you well the they won't be be upset with us if we hang up too soon i don't i don't know i think i haven't done that before usually i talk and talk and talk they usually come on and say something don't they uh yeah when our five minutes are up well that's all right how long have you been with uh TI oh i'm just a temporary i work for Manpower there and oh oh okay and uh what do you teach in i teach history oh yeah oh that's very few people are interested in that history yeah and chemistry so uh yeah there's not not many people like it but it's uh you can get them get them hooked on it if your pretty good what are your son your children what are they going into they you said they were in college uh the boy is going