way the way i'll go ahead and start the way i work i the way i dress for work is uh this year nineteen ninety one has been really suit and tie or i shouldn't say suit but coat and tie everyday uh-huh uh-huh a a year ago i changed jobs from being a researcher to doing marketing for the research group um-hum uh-huh which means uh kind of a i guess it's a different set of standards i guess yeah so uh i i dress almost the same everyday i mean pretty much it's a white shirt and slacks and shoes and a coat uh-huh uh-huh but it was very different before how would you dress well i'm a drafter so i just wear blue jeans and tennis shoes and i have a sweatshirt on today and that's pretty much the norm for me if i come in in a dress everybody's shocked um-hum yeah i understand they ask me you know what are you doing in a dress and it's usually i haven't done my laundry lately ran out of jeans right i understand that's funny so does it change no no hum-um your your dress no so or do i guess do you have things like presentations to do or anything like that so back in my old job up until through nineteen eighty i would no hum-um um-hum usually wear blue jeans and pullover shirts and the like but probably once a month or so there was some reason that i would have to put on a suit yeah presentation customer presentation or something yeah yeah every now and then i'll get dressed up and come in but that's for my husband's job and not mine i have to go to a business meeting once a month with him but oh i see i understand uh oh well that's interesting so let's see uh what else about this hm it it seems like TI is pretty cut and dried with the two like two or three levels that there's the top upper management that always wears gray suits uh-huh uh-huh and the people that don't uh i don't know if you noticed if i wanna say don't have power or don't have authority or whatever like i used to be in that research and i guess you are that we dress in the jeans and then there's kind of the uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh the branch manager level or marketing people that kind of do that middle thing um-hum yeah yeah middle middle of the road but there's not much it's nice that there's not a requirement um-hum um-hum sometimes i think there should be some of these women around here look like they came off of Harry Hines for it oh yeah right yeah i guess you see those once in a while and you know the they have the no shorts deal and some of these mini skirts you know are worse than shorts ever thought about being but um sure yeah you know that's i guess that's one of the things you got to put up with when you don't have a dress code that's right that's right i guess that that isn't there a dress code something about spaghetti straps i'm not even sure what they are supposedly and backless things but i've seen those too oh yeah oh backless all right okay so this wasn't necessarily a big conversation but i think we we did it but uh yeah okay and and your name was Lisa Lisa are you the Expressway site great i am yes and i work in the north building um-hum oh okay uh well thank you all right good day thank you um-hum bye bye