gonna go first no go ahead you called all right um right now i'm a college right now i'm a college student as a matter of fact so i'm pretty fresh with it i just think a lot of it depends on a variety of thing it depends on for me it was a combination of finance uh-huh um being in a place where i would enjoy the atmosphere and where i'd feel comfortable as well as just the general type of education that the school gives yeah well i i don't know i think it depends a lot on um well all those things decided that's true but i had got my daughter into college last year and it was really a major decision uh-huh but there were just so many things to consider and i don't really think we even considered all of the things we should have um-hum uh so she's out in California oh is she yeah but what we didn't consider was coming back and forth and things like that you know yeah really so that's kind of yeah exactly yeah that was kind of hard so i don't know i think it's always confusing it's hard to make a choice oh absolutely i think you know like you said a lot of it there a lot things for example i go to school out in Utah and my family lives here in Texas and so it's kind of like you said uh i never realized what an expense it would be trying to come home and uh-huh it really is and you don't get to come home as much as you think you will no i maybe have been home oh twice in the last two years for Christmas yeah yeah yeah so it's really hard to do that yeah it is and i think to there's there's a lot of times like you said that's one of the major considerations is you know how much do you want to be with your family or how much do you wanna and that's something that i didn't think about until i was already out there and i don't think you even know that answer until you go either yeah exactly you know everybody's anxious to get going and get away and go do their thing but then they really want to come home and they can't always uh-huh yeah yep that's for sure so that's kind of hard too but you learn to appreciate what you had yeah that's true isn't it yeah it is i know it is so what other points did you guys look at when you were trying to find her school well the size of the school because we live in Plano so the schools are really big here very crowded so she didn't want a school that was really too big uh-huh right uh-huh and we looked at that and i don't know that that's really relevant because you're gonna end up with your little group anyway yeah so i'm not sure that it makes too much of a difference although we did find that like down in Texas um at UT you know down in Austin uh-huh that those classes are so full like you can have two hundred kids in a class yeah and see i think that makes a huge difference where i so that would be horrible you know it is where i'm going my freshman year i didn't have a single class with less than nine hundred students that's horrible oh my gosh yeah and it was it was frustrating you'd see a TA once a week and even the TAs rarely knew who you were so yeah it became a thing like you said where you're where you're competing either to you know to get someone's attention to get help or you just kind of if you're not self motivated where i'm going it's really hard to where're you going um to Brigham Young University and it's that crowded is it really um in the freshman classes that are you have there's about twenty four thousand students oh and so it's kind of it's a lot of fun when you get in the upper level upper level classes it's a lot easier but yeah yeah wow gosh and that's something that i hadn't considered because i was i was raised in Plano as well and i went to Plano East and i never you know there's lots of students but there wasn't that many you know thirty or thirty five in a class i didn't mind yeah where are you in college now i'm a junior junior yeah um-hum my daughter went to Plano East too she twirled oh did she oh cool yeah but she was the only twirler they've ever had so but that's what she's doing out in California that's why she's out there great because we had to consider where a good spot was too and yeah and that should you know i think a lot of it depends on like you said i think for me what i wanted to get out of the college experience had a lot to do with it it wasn't it was a combination of academics as well as other things so yeah yeah well but a lot of times kids aren't sure what they want to be like she started out with sports psychology so we looked all over that was a hard thing to find uh-huh right and then she changed her mind anyway and i think most most people do that i think these days you know yeah see and they say that that's average yeah uh i have three or four times yeah because that's very common so maybe that's not such a great reason to look at a school i don't know yes i think for me personally when i was choosing i was looking more the overall experience instead of just yeah you know but the specific field that i was looking into at that time so yeah well she was too when you live in Plano you know you sort of have everything you really spoiled everybody here at school we all are all our kids are you know to be honest and we went out to USC because they wanted her to twirl for them yep uh-huh and she was terrified she was just terrified of living in LA uh-huh she was too scared to go there so i guess you have to look at that too yeah and i understood it at the time when we went to the campus and visited i thought oh gosh it would just