um what do you feel about child care well fortunately my children are pretty much beyond that mine are too but i think it's a real real a real serious situation for a lot of people it certainly is and i don't you know a lot about it where where you're working for this school department yes um our YMCA has after school child care um at several of the schools so that they don't even have to you know go anywhere yeah leave the school uh-huh um and then for other schools that they don't have it at the school they have it at the Y and they pick them up in a a you know a van or whatever i think it kind of depends on how many um-hum well you're probably in a more uh oh what we we live in a rural rural area students oh okay and so i think most of the people around here that have to leave their children leave them with uh neighbors or people you know in a home situation um-hum um-hum um-hum well that's always nice too i did that when mine were were littler so uh-huh the uh first couple of years that i i worked only halftime when my first child was born and and he just stayed with a friend or somebody that maybe had one child you know his age um-hum um and that always seemed to work out real well and you know when somebody would decide to quit or something i always felt real panicky um-hum but always seemed to manage to find somebody that i thought was just as wonderful as the other one you know so it seemed to work out yeah did you have you worked all the time your children were little um uh when i had my second one i stayed home for three and a half years oh uh-huh and then and then went back so but that's about the time then they could go into a preschool situation right right unfortunately the preschool that i wanted the second one to go to because my first one had oh is a preschool that does not have any day care at all but it's such a wonderful preschool so i had to find somebody else to keep them and then and then somebody to take them there uh-huh oh so that's always another problem oh yes uh you know i don't know how people we it's pretty cold here in Utah in the winter and i think i just think it would be so hard to have to get a child up a baby um um-hum um-hum and take it in the cold to someone early in the morning right yep i think that that i would let i think i would sooner have it in someone in the home taking care of it um-hum but then that's awfully expensive too in a home yeah well i mean if so you have someone come into your home oh yes uh-huh to come into your home but i you know that that would be real nice but just almost almost cost prohibitive prohibitive you know um-hum yes unless you can get could get a a nanny or something that i know a lot of the girls here go off as nannies uh-huh and stay in people's homes and take care of them after they've graduated from high school not a lot but some of them oh uh-huh uh-huh but uh i think that'd be an ideal situation i've never had to to uh work out of the home i've had we had uh six children and they just uh-huh i would just i was just here with them well you just worked period huh if you had six children right and right well there was seventeen years between them but that uh yeah well i just i just really that's what i wanted to do you know and but i know that my uh-huh yeah children's spouses and i have five boys and a girl and uh oh where did the girl come in the middle uh-huh we kept trying but uh the our our daughter or none of them have worked very much while their children have been little middle oh that's good um-hum so but uh we have fourteen grandchildren so this is i i feel lucky that they have not had to go out of the home right right because i i i don't know i just think that those first two or three years and then again in high school they they need their mother there yeah that's true yeah that is true well how cold is it up there so uh it's in the how cold is it honey right now about twenty eight oh okay well it's about fifty here so uh no it's quit yeah it was bad there for a little bit but uh anyway is it still raining oh good are you um-hum what do you do in the school district do you i'm a librarian oh well that's be interesting i love books um-hum yeah i liked that a lot and i kind of wanted to continue it even though my children were you know when they were born but like i said i was able to stay home for so uh-huh those three years so it made a difference well i think if you're trained and i think if you feel it within yourself that you want to be out you know and you you have uh you have the ability and stuff that's great there were times when i would have loved to have got you know uh-huh to left to have left my kids and you know um-hum to get out yeah that's true i think and everybody feels that way at times at least i'm sure they do and then also that you'd love to be home at i'm sure that's so too at other times but uh one thing i think it does do is it it it forces it forces you to make your children be organized and and i think it makes them more independent um-hum and independent that's right that