um what sort of camping do you like to do the most uh well i i do uh real rough type camping i have a motor home huh rough type huh okay yeah uh oh yeah motor homes can be a lot of fun yeah they really are they really are i've i've enjoyed it i've never actually done any uh like tent camping but uh one of these days i'm gonna try that too yeah uh that can be a lot of fun too yeah like to go to visit to the national parks and state parks and and uh just get out and see nature yeah how about you well so far my wife and i have pretty much had to stick with tent camping uh-huh this summer we went to uh the Smokey Mountain National Park oh how great and uh stayed about three or four days in there it was wonderful nights were cool enough to where they're comfortable and the the days were nice and warm and it was beautiful beautiful few days oh yeah um uh-huh that's great it worked out particularly well especially considering she was what six months pregnant uh-huh so i don't know it worked pretty well it was one of those uh those dome type pop up tents um-hum um-hum nice and quick and easy to put up and yeah packs away nice and small yeah about had to be something like that getting around in a Pinto well that's true that's true it was a lot of fun yeah i guess the last real uh camping trip i took was has been a couple years ago yeah uh i went to California and up to the Sequoias ah that's got to be beautiful territory yeah it's gorgeous i love the big trees just just the drive up through um up the coast line and then cut over in into the into the parks it's gorgeous though yeah what like Sequoia National Park yeah uh um-hum um-hum yeah i had been there before when i lived in California that's my first trip back in oh goodness hm hm thirty years maybe but yeah that is God's country it has to be yeah yep do they still have the uh the scenic uh roadways that cut through the center of some of those trees uh no no they don't that and the last one um and well the first time i was there the the tree was still standing but it has since come down oh okay yeah but they are huge if you've never seen them it's it's very awe inspiring no so far New Orleans is far west as i've gotten um-hum yeah well New Orleans and uh Minneapolis um-hum well there's lots of pretty country further west oh yeah we're hoping one of these days soon after we're out of school to head that way yeah yeah yeah and needed need to take the little one oh yeah show them all the all the pretties before they go away yeah they seem to be trailing out quickly yeah yeah because of there there's lots to see there's of course the the Grand Canyon and uh the Painted Desert is is real pretty in a in a different sort of way yes and course the the Sequoias and the Redwoods and and you get up into Bryce Canyon and Yellowstone and uh the Grand Tetons are gorgeous too i imagine yeah course i'm i guess i'm partial to big tree country i would imagine they are yeah i don't know why i got stuck down here in Texas i think it's called a job i don't know uh not a whole lot of forestry down there is there no not around here not around here hm oh the place is forested with concrete with those concrete trees um-hum lot lot of concrete and glass you know hm yeah well i guess that's God's place too anyway yeah um what do you figure has been the longest trip you've taken camping uh probably the the last one that i went to California i took uh three weeks three weeks so i was actually yeah on the road a little more than three weeks yeah the whole family in with in on this um-hum everybody yeah yep that would have to be a blast yeah it really was it was great what well you went out from Texas up in into that area um-hum yeah we went uh we took the southern route and went went through uh uh the Grand Canyon again and we stopped at uh um Las Vegas for a couple of nights and then uh went into Malibu in California over on the coast and then went up the the Big Sur Highway all the way up to San Francisco yeah and uh couldn't even cut across through the wine country and went down to the to uh Sequoia National Park okay oh wow okay Big Sur Highway that's uh well you're pretty much in view of the ocean almost all the time aren't you oh yeah uh-huh you really are