wood working do you do much in the way of wood working not a terrific amount to be honest with you uh i really don't have much in the way of tools i'd like to get a router and uh some other things like that but i really don't have much how about yourself i'm in about the same condition um had access to a fair amount of my father's place before i uh-huh moved away but uh it's been several years ago uh-huh but i've always always enjoyed what chances i had to do wood working you know i've made a just some simple things here just some shelves and uh saw horses you know nothing real complicated did a little bit of framing when i was going to you know in high school framing like picture framing right yeah no uh uh home framing i guess that's not wood working that's construction i guess but in high school shop you know like every body had to build a couple of things and i really liked it i thought it was a lot of fun yeah oh okay yeah okay well it was yeah but you do need the tools i don't have much in the way of tools to be honest i don't have a table saw or a drill press or any of that kind of stuff yeah my right now what i've got in the way of wood working tools is a circular saw and a uh square yeah that's it well a drill i do have a drill no i've got a drill and i think i got a jig saw and i got a a circular saw but yeah i don't know the wood working projects i've been involved with lately we uh converted a uh a very large section of shelving from an a restaurant that went belly up into a small smaller set for the home it something for my text books and my computer to stand on oh uh-huh yeah um no well that's kind of similar to what i've done uh had a father-in-law that got a bunch of uh uh real nice heavy doors from a motel that went out of business ooh and uh they made a great table top so i made a nice work bench with a peg board back on it and um-hum it's smooth faced doors pardon me these are like smooth faced doors yeah they're solid core and uh they they made a real terrific uh table top for a for a work bench there yeah it would so you know it's real steady and that would make a good table top well it's you know i watch this guy on TV once in a while oh the fellow with the beard that's hooked up with Sears now is it the New Yankee oh no no it's this other guy it's called the New Yankee uh Workshop i don't know if you've ever seen him or not Villa or something like doohinkey new Yankee New Yankee New Yankee Workshop i think that's what it's called but he makes uh mostly furniture items you know he'll make a a mirror or a chest of drawers or a table oh okay it's a series though huh and uh it's fascinating to watch him work you know he does a terrific job but he's got every single thing you can imagine you know yeah oh yeah he's got a he's got the sort of thing that that uh you know a professional shop would envy envy more than likely yeah yeah he's he's got all the all those things you'd like and and uh that's the problem i watch him do those things and i say you know i probably could do that given a little bit of experience yeah if i had yes if i had five or ten thousand dollars in equipment like i'm sure he has yeah well actually a lot of that stuff you can still do but it just takes more time and and a lot more talent when you have you got limited resources yeah that that's true you have to be better than than he is and that's hard to do what gets makes you a little nervous when you you know you're on a real nice piece of hard wood you don't wanna mess up on it yeah oh yeah it's expensive stuff and yeah last piece of hard wood that i bought was uh let's see a a one by ten by so one one inch by ten inch by four foot piece of uh um-hum of walnut oh oh beautiful piece of walnut uh-huh and now now for the life of me i don't know what i did with that board i carried it around i i got it all sanded out and planed out and never did get done with what ever it was i'd originally planned to do with it and i think i wound up giving it to my little brother oh is that right yeah anyway well i've been tempted once in a while to uh i don't know you have these uh community education programs um-hum where you're adult education you can you can take a class in the evenings where you go at the local high school or the community college and sign up for a wood working class i've been tempted to do that yeah yeah i have some a friend that made a microwave stand and some you know some other kinds of things like that did a nice job and then you know then you can use their stuff i've well it's one night a week and i think it's something you'd probably really enjoy uh-huh i don't know i was uh thirty three and i and just started college yeah and i mean going into it was like oh it sounds you know like it'd be fun but and i had all kinds of little buts that never really amounted to much but you know when i finally got into it i was so glad i did uh-huh yeah well well that's the one hobby i'd like to develop more i'll be honest with you uh yeah yeah it it it's i mean hobbies like that are therapeutic too it'd be yeah