we could talk about my favorite subject cooking and foods huh what do you like to cook food uh i don't cook a lot actually i've just started baking so i'm kind of interested in cakes and muffins and stuff like that but i can't seem to get them exactly right so just trying to perfect some things i don't know i tried to make an apple sauce cake which i will never ever try to make again um-hum it was horrible i don't know if the cake was horrible or if i made it horrible oh dear oh probably not i have uh a bread recipe that's real easy that everyone always really does like that uh doesn't require kneading the dough hum oh hey and it's oh it is it's wonderful it's and what's funny is that you use uh bran All Bran and it looks like it's a wheat bread but it's actually All Bran and flour and uh um-hum hum um-hum you know it's regular types that you know you use and that sort of thing and you let it rise and you can let it rise in the refrigerator and you can punch it down and then uh make your rolls and they really are good and they're so easy to do um-hum wow um-hum that it seems like every time that we have a dinner party or that uh we're going some place where everybody's supposed to bring something and they've had my rolls before they always ask me to bring those rolls um-hum they request it i haven't gotten any requests yet actually we i had a Christmas party at uh my office and i made the tuna fish sandwiches and everyone i mean i'm i think everyone knows how to make tuna fish so that'd be easy for me to make and i can't go wrong with it and so i made it and i used celery seed in my do you use celery seed in your tuna fish no i haven't uh and i i just thought it was so strange because i've never i thought that that's what celery seed was for was for tuna fish oh how funny and so but everyone really really loved the tuna fish and they just couldn't get over the fact that i used celery in it and it just surprised me celery and and onion and uh-huh well see i i've always used celery i mean i've used celery before but i've never used the celery seed in it um-hum oh yeah it's great uh just like um really fine onions and green pepper and the celery seed well what else do you put in it besides the celery seed and i used like uh Miracle Whip salad dressing instead of the actual mayonnaise because i really don't like mayonnaise the Helman's mayonnaise um-hum but if you use a salad dressing which is kind of uh you know kind of a i guess a tart taste then it comes out really good but i was uh it was the first time i've um-hum i've ever found out that that nobody else used celery seed i feel so silly but well see i've never put bell pepper in tuna fish either yeah i isn't that funny yeah that's weird i was brought up with tuna fish it was made where you put in uh oh chopped hard boiled eggs which it now is a no no with cholesterol um-hum right uh-huh oh and uh you know chopped up uh dill pickles and that sort of thing the standard old tuna fish right yeah yeah i would i would put that too i just didn't have those things like i don't think i had eggs that night or something but i would have put eggs i would have put in eggs in there also um-hum but isn't that interesting so you you use bell pepper and onion and celery seed i'll have to try that but that's strange and celery seed do you use a regular mayonnaise or sometimes i do sometimes i use Miracle Whip it depends on what i have and sometimes if i'm using like regular mayonnaise to spice it up a little bit i'll use a little bit of mustard with it the salad the Miracle Whip yeah um-hum yeah i do that also um-hum just to put a little zing in it or something um-hum yeah but not a bunch but enough to make it have a little bit more flavor oh no what what else do i like i love barbecue anything barbecue i'll eat um-hum i like uh barbecue baby back ribs um um and uh and and they're so easy to do if you uh have a good barbecue sauce and you just cook them very very slowly in the oven and it's not hard to cook like some meals are um-hum um-hum yeah hum and it's not of course it's messy to eat that's the disadvantage and uh i make lasagna from scratch and people really like my lasagna and yeah yeah i like to make that too i make that once in a while and so um sometimes i'm requested to make that hum or and that's and that's not too hard to do because you can do it in advanced and just bake it it's not really as long as you have all the ingredients it's just the layering really and and not breaking the uh the the uh pasta is the hardest part probably um-hum yeah um-hum then i have a wonderful recipe for strawberry pie it just takes forever but it's uh when the strawberries are nice and big and fresh and yummy but um yeah um do you make a cheese cake um um-hum i do but this one is basically it's like a normal pie crust but then you use this sort of uh it's a cream cheese um hum um-hum uh layering but you use thin it out a little bit uh or make it a little fluffier and you put uh line the whole pie crust with that um um-hum and so it's sort of like in a way uh using cheese cake and you know but but it's not a real cheese cake and then you um yeah and you just put the strawberries