okay uh what kind of fishing is there up in Utah well there's quite a quite a bit of different kinds lot of people go uh stream fishing and we have a a few lakes uh right now they're uh doing a little bit of ice fishing on some of the lakes i personally don't fish a lot fish a great deal uh got kind of a young family it's you know it's not something that we're really into there's couple of good trout farms that are close by that we go fish at just with the kids for fun yeah yeah how about yourself what do you enjoy well i was i was raised on Alabama coast and i like salt water fishing oh and Dallas is there's quite a few lakes around here i've done some fishing from the shore i don't have a boat which you really need to get out into the lakes uh you know really do any good uh-huh i've i've caught a few striped bass from the shore some of the small ones yeah and then catfish and stuff i haven't done a lot since i moved to Dallas how long you been there oh off and on for ten years we were here six years and my wife got homesick we moved backed to Alabama Mobile spent about eight months and moved back to Dallas because the uh-huh yeah wages and all were better up here oh i have a the only reason i'm in the program is i've got a brother and a well a sister that lives in Plano and so they uh they uh get involved in this we went out to a lake one time when i was visiting them i can't even remember what it was called it was a pretty good sized one seem like there were a few guys fishing there from the shore is all yeah uh i never caught anything or never been uh salt salt water fishing that sounds like you know kind of be a lot of fun i've seen these guys that well you go on a vacation and they go out in the big boat and right go deep sea fishing you ever done that yeah i did that a couple of times the company i had worked for in Mobile they had a couple of bunch of us guys got together and we and chartered a boat and uh-huh went out caught red snapper and one guy caught a ling oh and i caught a few what they call trigger fish uh-huh but the it wasn't some of the snappers that much not that much fun they don't really i mean uh yeah they they don't fight at all it's just pulling dead weight you know they don't fight is that right yeah and we'd constantly getting our lines tangled up with people people fishing on both sides of the boat so oh it was one uh fish were good but it was kind of a hassle i got a brother-in-law just got back from a trip to Alaska um and uh he said that was quite a bit of fun uh i guess the salmon are pretty good fighters and uh they went uh out in the you know more of the deep sea fishing as well caught a fair amount of halibut yeah and they say the halibut are are a pretty good fighter too um they're an odd fish i don't know if you ever seen i guess they lie on the flat on the bottom of the ocean and they only have one eye or or just a small eye on the other side okay well we we catch flounder on the coast which is about the same thing as halibut yeah yeah do they put up a fight or not uh well they hug the bottom they they don't run that much but they they somehow they hug the bottom and it's kind of you find it's a pretty good struggle to put them in you know pull them in once they get once you get them over to over to the side of the boat because they're they're pretty pretty weighty fish are they yeah do you net those or i guess you have to huh yeah yeah uh i've caught i've caught one on a hook with live shrimp i've caught several of them in cast nets uh-huh yeah about yeah you would have to net them to get them in the boat because they really have a small mouth and all yeah but i've i've fished mostly you know when i was on the coast in the in the bays and stuff in a little you know plywood skiff yeah and well the water's kind of brackish so i i catch a mixture of salt water and fresh water fish right with right on the coast you know i catch catfish in the bayou and go uh-huh a half a mile and catch a you know salt water fish you know i've never eaten catfish are they good eating yeah they they real good they uh-huh and so that i guess you know people on the coast and all consider them that's the best around is that right yeah kind of an ugly looking fish are they great big whiskers on them yeah they they yeah they are and they're bottom feeders if you uh-huh if you get them out of real muddy water then they got a muddy taste to them but if you oh yeah you know catch them out of clear running water they they're pretty good taste a little better yeah well these trout that we catch are real good i i quite enjoy those uh they this place where we go with uh with my six year old they uh filet them for you right there for only like ten cents a fish i mean it's well worth it yeah yeah so you just fry them up right