well got any problems on Mockingbird with crime or is that a crime free zone there no i don't think there is any such thing as a crime free zone any longer uh i'm afraid you're right uh one evening i decided to retire early and heard sirens and noises and thought oh well something's happens on Mockingbird and then heard yells and screams and the next thing i know there are policemen all around my house oh my and they had stopped a uh a stolen car oh boy and caught one of the men in the hedge and then the other one was on the roof in the back by your house by on my house oh my goodness ah aye aye so i'm very much aware of uh crime in the cities and the and the concern about it oh my that's that's got to be a frightening way to spend spend an evening it was i uh i kept hearing noises and so i i knew that i was not going to sleep until i got up and went out and checked the garage so i got a gun my gun and walked to the you know through the house into the garage there was no one there but i wanted to be sure oh boy is Plano beginning to experience the the kinds of things that are more common in the metropolitan you know in the urban area unfortunately yes yes that's too bad i think uh you know as any city grows up uh you get the hoods and the ruf riffraff and everybody else in there and i think u um-hum um-hum you know fortunately the sirens and everything we hear are over on Spring Creek but uh we've been we've lived here sixteen years and um-hum now you you know you can tell the change for sure well i was thinking if you've been there that long you've seen Plano grow from what was really a a small town to a city yes well with all the uh Central Expressway uh with all the stores and the uh restaurants and the um-hum uh convenience stores and all that kind of stuff it's just prime pickings for people driving by you know and yeah well i was appalled to read the other day about the uh uh shooting on the tollway that's that couldn't be too far from you neither uh uh well it's further west of me okay i live over near White Rock Lake oh yes okay but uh uh it was really frightening to think that uh it's not even safe to drive onto the tollway or for those people in the tollbooth uh i never thought about someone robbing those but apparently they do i don't know uh how a few bucks can be worth shooting somebody but yeah it just doesn't seem possible does it it's kind of kind of stupid isn't it um-hum but i guess when people do those things they don't really give a thought of the consequences at the time it's looks like easy pickings and away you go right no yeah and i think the drugs play a tremendous part in um the theft and the the violence that we see i think you're right uh although i think that may be an excuse for people too it it is convenient isn't it i didn't know what i was doing right right right just like the old alcohol idea and that kind of um-hum i think people uh i think when you have haves and have nots you're always going to find people that are too lazy to figure a way to earn money and find it's easier if you can get a gun to go out and hold something up than it is to figure out a way to legitimately earn the money um-hum well yes and i work in South Dallas for the Dallas School System and uh uh uh do you know where Oakland and Hatcher are oh boy where do you work uh yes i think i do that uh is that Amelia Earhout Earhart School there uh no this is over near Lincoln High School okay uh just not far off South Central Expressway that's a pretty rough area there isn't it it is a pretty rough area we're over by Fair Park um my goodness and uh you know you watch the people there are marvelous BMW's and Mercedes and Cadillacs and everything parked all up and down the street outside these awful taverns huh and the kids see that and uh they know that they can earn several hundred dollars in a day where uh you know running for uh drug dealers if definitely that area that that's big time big time there sure is um-hum it surely is i don't think i'd go to work without a bulletproof vest on myself in that area well i'm careful gee that's the worst neighborhood in the whole city area yeah it's uh a little scary sometimes and uh i manage the