so the question is how do we keep up with current events current events you take a newspaper as a matter of fact as you called i was uh taking a look at uh the San Francisco Examiner is that right is that how you usually keep up on the news yeah uh i watch the MacNeil Lehrer news hour fairly regularly and uh the network news less often uh-huh and will watch some of the talking heads programs on PBS yeah uh and that's pretty much about it we don't get Time or Newsweek um and uh as a matter of fact i don't get any of those sort of of magazines anymore yeah i don't either it's mostly by the news but mine is mostly mostly mostly just like the six o'clock news or eleven o'clock is usually about the time i'm ready to look at TV yeah do you watch the network news uh yeah some yeah out here they're moving it to a seven o'clock uh well they're moving the prime time schedule up from uh eight to eleven which used to be eight o'clock at night till eleven o'clock at night now to seven to ten oh and i guess the network news which has moved up in time out here um will move up on all three of the local network affiliates huh i was just reading as a matter of fact about the news coverage of the movie JFK have you have you seen yeah that's had a lot of publicity hasn't it yeah it's really interesting to listen to how different people uh approach different topics um it the i didn't realize this but uh Dan Rather at CBS was the first person to view this Zapruder film that was actually made of the assassination uh-huh and he had viewed it the day after and uh got it completely backwards in terms of what had happened that was significant because of the obvious contention that there were two gunmen at least and not one and uh it's really interesting and he Rather wrote later admitted that he'd gotten the key piece of uh uh evidence backwards that he'd argued like a lot of other people that Kennedy had lurched forward after the shot and he'd in fact been uh forced backward which lends credence to the two right uh to the two gunmen conspiracy theory have you seen the movie i haven't seen it i haven't either but it sure will be interesting to see how see it once i do figure out what all the controversy's about yeah it is uh you know i uh are you one of those people who believes that it was uh not a lone gunman that that we just never really got the full story yeah i don't think we got the full story but i don't you know i haven't seen the movie so i don't really have an opinion about what he had to say yet yeah i i haven't seen the movie either but i i think most of us in this country believe that it just doesn't make sense that it was one guy right and uh but who was involved that's i guess that's the story to tell huh well that's what Oliver Stone's seeking to do and i i think it's really interesting to look at this because i think it kind of gets at the question of how people get their news sometimes uh really important news comes to people through movies yeah just like this years later maybe through television yeah and and i think that's really interesting i know that um uh my wife and i were talking about how uh much uh attitudes toward women uh and and the relationships between men and women husband's and wives uh are changing and i think people get more of that information through television sitcoms than they do through reading the newspaper that's probably exactly right uh that was the topic of yesterday's T I conversation and and uh i think it's really interesting because i think all of those things wind up carrying the message and i think uh um it's gonna be real interesting to see where we go with all of the selective channels that people are going to be able to get via cable television and computer services right so much uh so much more than we can possibly consume in the way of news that's right that's right so what brought you to San Francisco have you um i came up here i was uh working for uh a unit of AT&T and was promoted i came out to California to go to graduate school and and was hired out of the PhD program um in southern California and went to work for a unit of AT&T and they promoted me and moved me up here and we liked it my my wife is from San Diego did did are you living right in San Francisco then live uh right out by the park right uh right off uh Lindley Meadow in Golden Gate Park oh well you're right in the middle of things then aren't you yeah yeah what took you to Texas a job yeah my brother lived out here and he and my dad owned a little trucking company and they asked my husband to come and run it oh yeah but we lived in Concord for several years before that and he grew up over there in San Mateo so we know that uh-huh and you grew up in Walnut Creek yeah how long have you been in Texas right so we um about nine years now that's do you like it i do i really like it that's a i i hear a lot of good things about Texas yeah i really like it it's big it's probably more affordable housing it's boy that's for sure you can't even uh i mean it's not even fathomable that yeah i well i the the we live yeah living here it's just it's