okay well are you a fisher person are you yes i love to fish what kind great what kind of fishing do you do well it's mostly from the rivers and lakes in California and yes and from the banks i don't like to go out on boats oh well what kind of fish do they have in your neck of the woods well it uh down here we usually catch catfish and bass stripped bass you know where i fish and trout up at uh Lake Shasta when i go up there uh-huh oh but i like it all except uh really i don't i don't really care that much for the trout i think i had rather have a catfish than i would a trout well i i don't blame you i grew up in Nebraska and uh grew up fish cat fishing in the Little Blue River and then uh we moved to uh South Dakota and uh did a lot of walleye fishing on the Missouri River uh-huh and uh now that we are down here i think a lot of people do some uh bass fishing and striped bass fishing but uh i still uh i am sort of a catfish man at heart i see well uh like in uh Iowa and Nebraska those little bullheads they look just like catfish huh yep yeah they do you know that's what i mean cause i am from Iowa oh and uh you know we use to catch those little bullheads and that's they look just like baby catfish yeah you know uh did you get to go fishing very often oh yeah i like to fish the only problem is i just moved to Texas so it's been a little over a year now but uh uh-huh i i am not quite sure what residency is for a fishing license here and i so really i haven't gone fishing for about two years now uh-huh and it's driving me crazy but uh one of these days i will go over to uh Lake Louisville or uh what is it uh Ray Hubbard Lake Ray Hubbard and get some fishing in and get it out of my system for a while uh-huh well uh you like to eat them after you catch them well yeah sure you bet because there's are a lot of people that like to go fishing but they don't like to eat them well most yeah most of the time uh if we catch something we'll take it home and eat it um you know and you're right i mean i like to fish for trout and they are really uh uh good fighters but uh if i went to a restaurant that probably wouldn't be the first thing i would order if i had a choice of fish on the menu yeah i know if i go to a restaurant and order fish it's usually either salmon or uh red snapper yeah you know well uh so do you just uh uh skin your catfish or do you fillet them out how do you how do you we skin skin them yeah yeah yeah just cut their heads off and skin them and then i just uh flour them salt and pepper them and cook them do you okay yeah i don't put that corn meal on them no you know uh that's the way my mother taught me to fry them so well that's how we do it too uh although we uh use to set some uh trout lines out and we've caught you know fourteen fifteen pound catfish and sometimes those are good to uh do on a barbecue grill uh-huh uh-huh and just uh leave the skin on and uh do it with uh butter on uh on on tin foil uh-huh and then the skin just basically scrapes right off and uh we're and it really tastes pretty good yeah well you know i don't think i've ever tried cooking those uh catfish quite that big uh most of them are just the small you know pan frying ones there uh yeah so uh well i am hoping one of these days i'll have the opportunity to catch a big catfish like that on uh a rod and reel but uh so far it's just been on uh on the trout lines so um wouldn't that be something yeah it's a thrill when you get a big fish though isn't it yeah and uh well and up in uh South Dakota on the in the Missouri River there we've uh tied into a few northern pike and uh you know they really uh in in when the water is cold they are very slow moving fish but in the summer time they'll uh give you a run for your money uh-huh so when you were when you did go fishing where did you go you moved there from where Nebraska uh-huh yeah so it was just like the rivers and uh and the lakes i suppose huh in in Nebraska yeah uh yeah most of the time uh we just fished uh in the river although there were a lot of sand pits and things like that that we could fish in uh-huh uh-huh and a lot of them ended up being close to the river so if the river ever uh flooded you know then obviously they would dump some catfish and bass and stuff into the into the ponds and the sand pits uh-huh so we'd do a lot of fishing there too but uh South Dakota didn't really have much for