go now what kinds of things do you like to listen to good well my uh uh my interests lie mainly in classical music is that right uh-huh and uh uh uh although i wasn't raised with opera it's something that i've i come to enjoy how about yourself well actually i kind of like those same things myself and um uh i did uh study some music in school although i'm not um a musician i just took it kind of as an avocation and i sing with the Brookhaven singers over at Brookhaven College you must be familiar with that name living in Dallas right absolutely and uh they have um a lovely woman over there who um teaches singing and um has a Saturday class as well as private lessons and uh we go and we sing for some retirement homes and at the Botanical Gardens and things like that and uh really very very very enjoyable and i do try to get down to the symphony at least a couple of times a year and i didn't get down to the opera this year though but i have in the past um but anyway i do enjoy listening to especially the classical music that has some kind of a story line or a theme like Beethoven's Pastoral and things like that where you can sure follow um through some of the mood of the of the melodies and not just have um you know a kind of mathematical arrangement of the notes which is sound also fascinating many times but i like that break of a kind of a story line sometimes what kind of uh pieces are your favorites well i uh i tend to shy away from anyone who uh uh is born later than nineteen hundred uh-huh other than Aaron Copeland uh Aaron Copeland i enjoy oh yeah uh-huh uh-huh what about Gershwin oh Gershwin uh Gershwin's uh i i i uh i i haven't uh quite found jazz to be enjoyable and and and a lot of Gershwin has a a some of some of his work is a little uh has has has a touch enough enough of jazz uh um-hum um-hum that uh that uh is not particularly enjoyable for me to listen to the uh um-hum um uh uh like i i i suspect my favorites uh are in the uh seventeenth and eighteenth century uh uh musicians uh i'd um-hum uh-huh the uh oh there's one uh uh i guess more recent one with uh Copeland uh is uh Raspegie who uh i was always amazed that he was uh so contemporary uh contemporary um-hum um but i uh uh i our family gets down to uh the Myerson relatively frequently it it's our uh uh our one enjoyable uh if if we can make it to Saturday uh everything's okay um-hum um-hum uh-huh so it's uh it's a relatively busy uh activity we uh one uh very nice uh uh opportunity that we've had is the is the Dallas Chamber Orchestra uh-huh oh really that has uh uh uh actually it's it's it's wonderful they they have a Sunday matinee that uh uh if you buy two season tickets the kids go free um-hum oh and uh that gives us an opportunity to uh uh to take the to uh uh make sure the kids uh get uh get dressed up and and go to the symphony whether they want to or not and um-hum and uh and they uh their they oblige us by falling asleep so least that's pretty good how old are your children they're uh eleven nine and eight which is and it's it's nice in that uh oh isn't that wonderful though um-hum in that uh their their you their they you can get real close to the uh to the chamber orchestra and see the music and watch the musicians it's uh it's a very intimate setting and the the music's really very good um-hum i bet it is now i have never heard them um that Myerson auditorium is really is really quite acoustically beautiful i i have to admit that um i had the privilege of going to the uh piano concert that uh Yefgenya Chessum who is a young uh Russian artist gave i guess it was just before Christmas time right and i'm telling and and it was no orchestra orchestra or anything it was just he it was just a recital and yes and i'm telling you the sound the sound was so so perfect uh i i had heard you know the orchestra the symphony and we went for the toy symphony and the young children's um uh uh orchestra from SMU and oh um-hum right several things down there this is the first time i just heard like one artist and right