okay um have you had any experience in trying to find child care um yes some what um uh-huh we do baby sitting here like my neighbor and i share baby sitting and um then i ran a preschool so i know you know from the other end you know trying to help people find um-hum um-hum really find day care so yeah okay well i've done more or less the same we have five children and um so what about you goodness uh yeah i just haven't found it equitable to work outside the home and so i have done the day care inside my home um-hum how has that worked out well i've done it for seven years and uh it's pretty well driven me crazy oh yeah i can imagine i've got three kids and i think i mean it's sometimes it's easier like last week my husband was gone and i had my three nieces and nephews over and it was really much more calm than than than having just my three at home oh oh was it oh uh-huh that's true sometimes sometimes they do offer a just a play time for your kids but yeah yeah it it depends though it depends on how well behaved the other kids are yeah we have some times its like oh if i can only get these kids uh-huh hum um hang hang on just a second um okay okay just a second i'm on the phone yeah i've got three preschoolers um but uh oh my goodness yeah i mean i i think it's we've wanted to do i've wanted to join a baby sitting co-op oh and um that's we there're several of them around here um the one my my sister in law is in you have to be recommended in to the co-op you know that way some one knows you and you and you just aren't giving your kids out to any body and i just haven't found one that's close enough to me uh-huh uh-huh uh-huh oh that i feel comfortable with at this point um um-hum but because i mean you don't wanna you don't wanna leave with your kids with anybody and um no no you don't the day care centers around here i i really my kids go to preschool and i have found some really good ones um oh good one of them goes two days a week and the other one goes one day a week and that's a nice break and it's this is a oh how fun i really like the one that that they're in um they've got some really qualified teachers there they've been there for a long long time they've got um a um-hum certified kindergarten teacher doing the curriculum for the older you know the fours and the three year olds and stuff so that's that is really good i really like that oh good um-hum um-hum that would be fun yeah that's good for the kids and then it's fun for you too to have that little break during the week yeah yeah i like that i i like that little break oh oh now on that co-op um do women just trade baby sitting or you you you start out with like coupons and um i don't i think i think you start out like with say twenty or thirty and and you have to um oh when when you baby sit somebody they pay you in coupons and then um they uh then you pay the other people in coupons and i think some of them is in like thirty minute time slots or in hour time slots and you have to do it oh um-hum oh gosh you know per child um at least the the ones that i've seen that have worked and then they normally get together like once a month and um to you know decide you know how many do you have and and then uh-huh uh-huh they say okay you need to you know if if you're taking in a lot of baby sitting and you're not you know doling it out also then um a lot of times they'll say okay you need to you know you need to let people sit for you um that way it'll even out you some people aren't getting you know without they don't have any more coupons left uh-huh uh-huh oh what my goodness and um their monthly meetings the one i went to one and they a lot of times they'll have um special people come and talk about uh-huh uh say safety or you know different things with about children and some times they'll just have get togethers you know even even with the kids like during the day and stuff um-hum so it gets them helps them to know one another and then you know its can be pretty informative also oh well that sounds like a terrific idea my goodness i haven't heard of anything like that out here in Utah and it sounds like that'd be something good to start huh yeah yeah i that's i don't know all the um i don't know all the details uh um i i i don't know if it seems like it seems like her the my sister in law's um uh they are in