well what kind of music do you like to listen to i'm pretty diverse actually um i consider myself both a performer and also an enjoyer so i kind of get into all all types i run the gamut from uh are you alternative to uh to rock and roll to heavy metal to you name it so i'm pretty open on that oh you like country western country's not bad i can i grew up in Nebraska so it was like um yeah i i listen to it once in a while but it's it's probably not my my top mode i guess that's pretty pretty popular down in Plano though uh yeah um yeah we've i mean it you know there's you have all sorts here too um i went to a pretty uh well the school i went to was Texas A&M an and uh either you either you went country western dancing or uh oh yeah so you didn't do anything at all right yeah pretty much pretty much so so i have i really liked i liked it there but i also also like some of the Christian um contemporary music that they have play huh uh-huh are you into the Garth Brooks thing at all or is that popular down there right now i know that he's kind of a big name right now yeah yeah yeah it's popular here and uh there's all yeah and you're also into the Christian contemporary stuff yeah yeah i had a i had a roommate that was really into that he was into all the um groups like uh i'm trying to remember DMZ um-hum Resurrection Band uh what else there are a couple of other ones he was into he was into Petra as well yeah in fact it's interesting he he's actually an engineer i don't i i'm going to school in Florida and he's an engineer that does sound mixing mixing right now for a Christian bands oh really so yeah he's pretty into it that's fun it's been it's been lucratim for him well what you you mentioned alternative music well yeah um kind of like what is that i don't know in the early seventies i think it was called punk rock oh okay but then now it's it's kind of taken a different slant and i think it's it's gone more diverse toward um not so much the head banging on the wall stuff as much as just runs really a wider more eclectic uh tone flow and things like that so it's i don't know i like i said i consider myself fairly diverse so um um-hum you said you're also a performer yeah yeah i well i play the trumpet um and also keyboards i played keyboards for about uh oh i don't know twelve thirteen years and played trumpet for about ten so what do you perform do you oh wow it it's good for a side diversion and a little bit of side income you know whenever i can do you do you play anything at all yeah um not on a consistent basis at this point i've got three kids and they're preschoolers so i do good to get a book book read or newspaper read or anything so yeah oh wow sure sure free time is not much of a luxury uh yeah yeah i know that feeling in fact i do good to listen to anything but kids' tapes at this point because i know all the kids' tapes it's like yeah yeah yeah well maybe hey that may be more quality you know after all they do have they do have some good tapes out there for kids we i don't know um yeah Joe Scruggs is a guy that is out of Austin here that has some wonderful kids tapes it's really i mean they are really fun and uh Joe Scruggs he's with he's an educational Joe Scruggs huh um it's called Shadow Play and if you ever see any of his stuff he is just he's really good and and um kids really like it interesting uh when you said Scruggs i was thinking because Earl Scruggs is a real famous banjo player a real famous blue grass player yeah and uh in fact if you remember the the theme from the Beverly Hillbillies uh-huh he actually played part of that oh uh he and Lester Flats so uh i was thinking wow wonder if this is a relative i don't know i don't know well um have you um they're not they're more uh oh have you ever heard of Riders In The Sky i don't know if they're but anyway if they're big up there in fact i think they may have even had a television show on Saturday mornings for kids oh yeah i haven't heard much about that no um they're pretty neat they're kind of a a a blue grass country uh they're real fun i mean they're yeah they're the guys that i mean they can yodel and they can they play the fiddles and the and the saws and stuff and they're real fun they're a real fun group all right yeah kids probably get into that quite a bit yeah i'm uh i'm not quite at that point in my life yet so yeah well yeah it'll probably be a while before i uh before i get into the kids' music in at all so well we saw them originally at a at a club down here um probably about oh seven or eight years ago and um yeah then just in the last i don't know two years we saw them on a TV show and i think they were i think they were doing kids' music but um-hum what we saw in the you know was adult in the but i don't know i don't know where they run the gamut and i don't know um right you know i don't know if the south is more towards the you know has more of that crowd or not i don't know i don't know do you um-hum well it's yeah it's hard to tell i know you know like in the Appalachian Mountain area there that thing's real popular yeah i i've had some friends from West Virginia that's you know that it's real popular around there uh-huh well and