okay okay um so what do you think um about putting an elderly in a nursing home well i think that it it varies on on the individual basis hm uh sometimes it is there's no alternative uh you do not have uh um-hum uh family available or family that's uh you may not even have family that is uh in and who around that's true yeah so sometimes it's not an alternative and i think uh but i think also sometimes it can be uh a benefit if it's for a short time sometimes in a nursing home hm um-hum um especially after if it's after an acute illness to get over a uh or to rehab after uh an illness that's true i never thought of that yeah sometimes you know it sometimes the nursing homes are good for uh just short periods of time that's true until they get over that hump of whatever it is they're dealing with um-hum because too often the acute hospitals will are sending them out much faster than what they're really able to yes they really are they don't like to keep them longer than a week but so so there is some good to it uh sometimes too it's used as a dumb job you know the families well the families do not necessarily yeah what do you mean uh know what to do with them and they don't wanna take the responsibility so they will put them in a nursing home yeah that's true so you see uh there's both sides to it too what do you think yeah and it depends on how how sick the person is too and what you're capable of like if you have a family to take care of you know of your own yeah yeah um i would personally like it if my parents were to get ill i would like to take care of them at home and if i had the money with some help that's not always possible that's true but um to the best of my ability i'd like to do it until it gets impossible well i think that's also where you're gonna to have a lot of people who are going to it's there's not a choice it's because there it's not economically feasible even to put them in a nursing home right um-hum yeah so that that option sometimes is not available if they do not have the uh either Medicare or insurance to cover it that's true yeah so but i think nursing homes can be good just depends on what kind they are you know an you need to check them out ahead of time yeah and then there's also some that are set up for specialties uh um-hum i know some elderly unfortunately some elderly have to go to or have i guess it's Alzheimer's or where they wander or or um um-hum confused or have some mental problems yeah that they're and you need a special nursing home for that you need one that has a unit that's locked where they are not able to get out and roam around and you need people who are trained for that type of problem yeah right and know what they're doing with that yeah so so there's different types of nursing homes i think yeah well my uh grandmother's not really in a nursing home but a retirement home that also has a nursing home sort of attached to it and she really liked the idea of of moving there she's not ill yet um-hum but um she worked there as a volunteer for about ten years and then she decided that um she's eighty five years old that eventually you know she she doesn't want her family taking care of her and being a burden she's very independent so she's in this nursing home it's out in the country and um she really enjoys it right now because she doesn't have to wash dishes or cook gives her a little bit of her own independence but she still has uh a security there uh-huh right some support and then there's also a sort of a wing for those people that do get sick and what i like about it and i think she likes about it is that she knows everybody there now and then so if she ever does become ill um it'll be like family around her that's right and i i've seen some of them like that too and also they have a lot of uh activities going on for the ones who are more active yeah um-hum yeah she so it's not sort of like uh uh a sick place um-hum no she loves it she had a great social life and she travels and um it's in in Missouri in the in the mountains and it's beautiful and uh i i hope that i have something like that when i get older yeah i think i think of the um i think the the decision that needs to be made though on nursing home has to be a joint one between the the uh elderly uh person who's going in um-hum and the family that's going to be uh effected effected by it oh definitely it's and uh you know sometimes it can those choices those choices can be made in advance and sometimes the choices uh because of the nature of the illness when they're um-hum right