right now i'm at um University of Pennsylvania i'm a graduate student oh and the benefits that i get are very minimal yeah but i do get my health insurance paid for but i don't have any kind of disability insurance or um yeah let's see no disability insurance no vacation well i get in a way i get vacation pay because i get to set totally set my own schedule uh-huh but not any real significant benefits my health insurance is very minimal right um i'm i'm a co-op student at GTRI uh-huh uh i go to school at Georgia Tech and we don't have benefits to speak of we don't have health insurance or paid vacation and you're undergraduate student or graduate student um-hum undergrad undergrad yeah um-hum yeah here they for the grad students at least in physiology department which my degree degree granting department is biological engineering but physiology and the biomedical departments at least pay the health insurance engineering doesn't even do that oh yeah yeah but i don't know i think that it would be great if instead of having health insurance and all those things tied to a job the way they are now uh-huh uh-huh so that some people can get them and some people can't and it's like having two classes of income some that is taxed and some that is not it'd be great if they had right everybody responsible for their own health insurance uh-huh and either that or what they could be responsible for their own health insurance but if they did take the company benefit then that would be taxed like other income um-hum so then that would everybody would know what their real income was and that their benefit that they were getting from the company was costing them something and that they might want to look around to get something better somewhere else uh-huh well that's a good idea i had never thought about it that way so i guess i would like to see something like that and then i guess the going beyond just the idea of benefits having instead of um a national health insurance system having a sort of like an FDIC for health insurers so if if you're health insurance company goes out of business you don't lose everything if you get sick um-hum yeah right right that's that would be a wonderful idea but on the other hand in in the current state of the current system i'll uh-huh whenever i get out of here i'll look for a job probably an academic job that would um you know benefits i don't know how important that'll be usually academic jobs you get TIAA for your retirement plan right uh-huh which is a it's a mutual fund that allows you to transfer your benefits with you with whatever job you go to um-hum and i didn't know that a lot of an academic jobs give you that but on the other hand state retirement if you work for a state university can be very secure in taking good care of you really i know my daddy worked for the federal government uh-huh and he was in the soil conservation service and then after he retired from that he went taught school for a while and he had taught school early in his career so he got the um-hum um-hum federal retiree benefits and the state retiree benefits and the most important for him has been the health insurance because my mama isn't particularly well wow um-hum um-hum she has um she's a kidney patient on dialysis and he was saying that um-hum now that her kidneys have totally failed they've taken her off one of the drugs Lasix which is a diuretic it it changes how the kidneys absorb moisture um-hum and her drug bill is now down to two hundred dollars a month wow so and that's the lowest it's been in quite some time and so health insurance can be a real big important thing to get yipes um-hum right what kind of job are you thinking about getting when you get out oh i'm i'm just not entirely sure i have only been working here for one quarter this is my first quarter here and uh i'm not really all too sure what kind of jobs are available and uh i haven't gotten them yet i'm going in a few um um-hum and i i i'm going to be doing research for a professor next quarter and see how i like that see uh uh-huh if research for a school would be something i would consider hum what kind of company are you working with co-oping oh oh it's the Georgia Tech Research Institute it's affiliated with the university um i see and uh we do research uh the one i'm in the lab i'm in does research in microwaves and antennas and uh we do a lot of research for the federal government uh-huh so a lot of our uh expenses are you know covered by the federal government so right