well we every we used to when i was younger we used to go every weekend but we hadn't done much a lot whole lot of it lately yeah all right yeah i'm kind of into it i'm uh kind of a sailor i'm up in Minneapolis now but i was in Florida so uh yeah i was kind of getting to it for a while there yeah were you sailboating yeah for the most part yeah i had a little sailboat yeah well we don't get do a whole lot of that up here no just motorboat's all we what part of Texas you from uh Nacogdoches okay whereabouts is that that's between Houston and Dallas okay all right it's the oldest town in Texas yeah we have uh Lake Sam Rayburn out here and Lake Nacogdoches so we do a lot of boating on is that right wow that's pretty wild okay so you got some lakes around you can do that on so you do some skiing and stuff or yeah yeah a little bit just got through snow skiing yeah just came back from Denver but yeah all right yeah all right yeah that sounds good yeah we've uh part of the snow up here is really kind of starting to melt now yeah it's it it was it was heavy when we were there though i didn't see any boats there though yeah not not not too many no but uh no i just got back from a weekend where we went and uh had a kind of a picnic in the woods type thing it was pretty nice but uh no i i have uh i had a boat last summer that i took out a catamaran that i do did a lot of sailing on and stuff that's a lot of fun but uh my parents are pretty big sailors too they're kind of into it but yeah uh all we all we have up here mostly bass boats oh yeah i guess it's pretty uh fishing's a pretty big thing huh um-hum lot of lot of fishing going on up here yeah yeah all right so where about in Texas is that is that centrally located or it's uh well you ever heard of Lufkin uh no what what major city is nearby Houston okay and that's south or north of there or something let me see Houston's north yeah okay Dallas is south oh okay all right well that sounds pretty good does uh i guess the weather does that stay pretty constant there or it's it's gets cold at night and then warm in the afternoons probably seventies eighties in the afternoon yeah okay well that's pretty temperate yeah that's not too bad but uh yeah have you done uh any other boating then or no i hadn't done any in a lately uh lately but that's all i used to have uh have a friend that owned his daddy owned a boat shop and we used to when i was in high school we used to go out yeah go boating everyday just about oh that's great yeah i and we had a new different boat everyday oh that's fantastic yeah i used to uh kind of be that way myself when i lived in in northwestern Florida in the panhandle i used to sail about everyday i'd work go to work i'd like to do some sailing yeah it's a lot of fun it's uh especially if you get a a pretty fast boat like those catamarans are pretty fast you can actually yeah what do you if you get one like that they have somebody teach you there or they just well actually i i've known how to sail pretty much my whole life um my my family's pretty into it and uh i took sailing lessons when i was about six and then uh yeah is it pretty easy yeah it's it's kind of a thing where you get the hang of it after a while you know um just kind of get a feel for the wind and how it works and and the physics behind it yeah so it's it's not too bad it's pretty easy to get the hang of i think and uh generally everybody i've i've known has kind of gotten into it but some people are more motorboaters you know which is fun yeah that well that's about all we have yeah yeah a lot of people don't don't see the excitement in sailing but then again they may ne'er may they may never have tried anything like uh catamaran um-hum and uh that's when you really start getting into speed you know you can actually some catamarans can actually pull people behind the skiers they get so fast you know i didn't know that yeah they get pretty quick but uh that that'd be something yeah yeah i haven't i haven't personally done that but um the races i i work with a guy right now that uh races catamarans in the summertime um-hum and uh he's pretty gassed about it he's got a good uh what kind of what lake do y'all use well he uh he's from Detroit so he usually goes on one of the Great Lakes i think and does his sailing um for me i i go back to Orlando uh in about a month um-hum and so down there basically just go to the coast we're about thirty miles from Coco Beach and the East Coast and there's a lot of places there you can go you know ooh so uh so that's a good thing yeah but yeah so what do you do for a job uh well i build transformers oh really okay is that for TI or yeah no it's for Cooper Industries okay are they primarily electronic then yeah okay well that well they have a you know worldwide but right well well all we do here is make transformers electronics and stuff like that oh okay great yeah how do you like it down there in Texas it's real nice living here all my life yeah oh no doubt okay i've never been to Texas i've been to Oklahoma but uh that's about as far yep oh it's no Oklahoma's nothing like it yeah okay well that's good because i didn't like Oklahoma that well