okay uh well Steve do you take your entire uh family camping well we really haven't been camping per se here but we've camped in Wyoming well you have do you take the children with you oh yeah yeah i got a one child he's ten years old when we go camping uh we normally have to round up another child to keep him occupied otherwise otherwise he drives us nuts yeah well that that's basically the same way with us but we we kind of play games and stuff with him when we're camping do you do you wilderness camp uh yeah i have before before i uh got married i haven't since i've been married though your your wife doesn't like that wilderness camping does she well she she likes to go camping but we just haven't really had a chance to really go camping yeah my wife thinks Holiday Inn is wilderness camping she uh she got to have a bathroom and showers we live on the lake uh there's a very large lake here it's called Lake Laniers in north Georgia yeah uh-huh my house is on the lake so there's a lot of places to camp around around here where the they have rest rooms and showers and stuff like but the lake's really crowded so we normally go the mountains we found some nice little places in the mountains yeah there's a lot of state run camp sites now this they're charging us now do they charge you in Texas i'm not sure if they do or not it's uh i think uh some of the privately owned places do but i'm not sure about the government owned oh oh they do here they they uh you pay taxes to support it and then uh you pay to get in too yeah you know like a user fee i think they call them now so now do y'all do you fish and go camp do you take a boat or yeah well no not really we just usually kind of go camping and tent and cook and and just fish off the shore yeah it uh do you uh load the car down till the springs are dragging the ground we do we yeah we we got uh my wife is putting tables and chairs yeah got to have the comforts of home huh oh yeah it we have a hard time getting the uh recliners bolted on high on the car too well it takes three days to load the car and three days to unload it and we camp for about a day and a half yeah yeah i i can understand that but we really don't when we go we kind of plan everything out and we don't uh take a lot of stuff with us so do you know how old are your children Steve uh we just got a five year old a five year old boy that's rough to camping in when they're five it'n it well not really he's pretty good you know he when he when we ask him to do something he usually does goes and does it well when when uh ours is like i say is ten years old and i think they might be a little bit more hard to handle too yeah you got to keep them occupied and then plus you end up with a fish hooks in your ears and stuff like that well i kind of i kind of got a got him to where he's uh just got a weight on the end of his right now so he really doesn't know what catching fish is like so he just kind of practice casting right now well that's all they care about anyway yeah casting that's all my boy cares about seeing how for he can throw it i've tried to explain to him fish can swim yeah yeah he don't believe me but before i came in the service my dad always took us camping in the Bighorns in Wyoming uh-huh so we did a lot of that just about every year with the family so it was we drove we drove through there and looked that looks like it'd be beautiful out there oh yeah it is well one one summer we went in July and went camping and one morning we got up there's snow on the ground so sort of it kind of surprises you you know yeah i don't know if i could take that last time we went camping i went with my brother and his wife and we went up the on top of this mountain it was a little narrow road um-hum and it takes it's just eighteen miles but it takes like a hour and a half to get up that road it's a rough road yeah so we get up there and we sit around and we get ready to get ready for the camp that night and and they didn't bring the poles to hold their tent up so we're all had to cram this one little tiny tent and it rained all night long oh and i was stuck at the door and it just it just flooded me all night long this so that has been our last little camping experience yeah but uh we enjoyed it if we if you don't get pneumonia yeah it's it's pretty nice to get out and see the wilderness every now and then you know well there's getting less and less of it oh yeah i think