person i've ever gotten yeah me too i guess it's the east coast time you know everybody else is asleep well i figured i'm available now and actually i've had this thing on speaker phone and it's it tried about fifteen time oh yeah yeah i've got i've initiated a few at the office like that and it takes a while during the day uh well it's an interesting topic wanna get going okay i oh okay here we go okay what are your thoughts on fitness uh well i exercise fairly regularly i work for a company out here uh in uh Livingston New Jersey Bellcore yeah Bell Communications Research and um we have in the corporate center where i work a health enhancement center HEC they call it um-hum and it's about as convenient as can be it's uh just two floors down from me and uh so i exercise regularly during the daytime when i'm at the office do they have Nautilus machines and that kind of thing and they have oh a bank of maybe six jogging machines they have a a um progressive weight machine that uh you know you dial up the weights on it it's not Nautilus but it's similar to that and then they have uh bicycles and free weights but they also have people who chart your progress uh and encourage you to come if you slip off for a couple of weeks they send you a a nice friendly aggressive reminder that says hey we haven't seen you for a while and they also provide towels and shower facilities and lockers and everything so uh you i've been through the routine i guess like most people where you know i've joined health clubs i've been at the university where you know it's a pretty good distance away you know quarter of a mile walk and uh nothing seemed to work for me as well as having it in my own building doesn't work at at at home you know i've bought home exercise equipment and stuff and right is this something you do on your lunch hour uh no i generally go down there um midafternoon um the time that seems to be best for me is around two o'clock two thirty but oh they allow you that free time to do that but yeah and that's you know there are people down there all the time you could almost hold meetings sometimes because people tend to set up a regular schedule and go down there uh but the the etiquette of the place is that you don't really talk too much business oh i really wouldn't have thought they'd give you that much free time this is part of your day when we're down there uh yeah yeah it just you know works out that way um and there have been a lot of studies i have friends who uh huh who work in the recreation field for companies like this and actually um a break like that increases productivity and and with the commensurate um increase in physical fitness by the people who attend these centers regularly you have uh fewer absentees and things like that so the corporation can justify it pretty well um and it's not like i'm taking time away from the company i probably put in extra hours because i'm now physically fit and reenergized i mean that my routine around two two thirty to go down there for an hour probably makes the last three hours of the day then more productive than i would if i you know just sort of went on through so well i i i used to exercise at night and i found that you don't come home tired you come home with a new found energy so you i can see what you're saying yeah yeah and that's what the late kind of the late afternoon is i you know i have a very light lunch because i know i'm gonna be working out and uh you you know usually then my lunch is just a a quick tuna sandwich at my desk so then and i sort of skip that luncheon right time and uh you know catch up on reading and then work out so that's that's kind of my routine hm i belong to a Y and i substitute teach so i would love to get there Monday Wednesday Friday or you know every other day but when the phone rings at six o'clock in the morning that's it um-hum and and it's kind of upsetting because if you go once a week it hurts every single time yes yeah you know i what i like about exercise i love the inaerobic exercise i like the weight machines and i like the free weights i enjoy that it's sort of a personal challenge to get better at that and you do see results real quickly um you know the the um-hum um stationary bike and those skiing machines that's work i'm not crazy about that yeah yeah we have the Nordic machine and i tried it a couple of times it just made me feel stupid and uncomfortable and uncoordinated so i don't do that i sometimes it is used regularly by you know people but uh i i didn't like it well i find i i you know i read somewhere that twenty minutes on the bike is what you need every other day and and i can do that and be pretty comfortable about it but i tried the Nautilus machine yes it you do feel kind of goofy but even five minutes makes you feel tired you work harder on that thing um-hum um-hum yeah it it appears so i generally use the um the treadmill uh i kind of like it it's it's mindless you just get on and it's a a way to sort of um reach a Karma very quickly you know