okay
 		go ahead
 	
 	
 		uh
 		well you know um
 		i
 		think
 		public service is a worthy thing and as a matter of fact there are a lot of programs uh such as Peace Corps that promote that
 	
 	
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 		probably the most popular one but uh one that is not typically recognized as such is the Boy Scouts
 	
 	
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 		uh i know that from because my son is a a scout now and uh is thinking about his Eagle
 		and uh in order to get Eagle you have to have merit badges in um citizenship in the community citizenship in the nation citizenship in the world
 	
 	
 		right
 	
 	
 		and you have to do a public service project
 	
 	
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 		uh in which leadership is the key element
 		i um
 		i think the question is posed somewhat strangely because um
 		it's talking about uh a requirement for public service
 	
 	
 		um-hum
 	
 	
 		uh and of course Peace the Peace Corps the Boy Scouts is a  is a voluntary activity
 	
 	
 		right
 	
 	
 		uh
 	
 	
 		i i think that might be talking referring to uh
 		something kind of uh alternative to the draft you know either you have
 		uh military service or some sort of alternative nonmilitary service for a few years
 	
 	
 		right of course um
 		uh military service falls under the category uh of a public service
 	
 	
 		right right
 	
 	
 		and so uh one of the things that would fulfill the at least the nominal uh qualifications set forth in the charge is military service or draft
 	
 	
 		hm right right
 	
 	
 		uh but i agree with you that probably is not what was comprehended there are other things such as civil service
 	
 	
 		well you
 		um-hum
 	
 	
 		um which many people uh are lifelong employees of but i suspect that that's not what they had in mind either more of a voluntary kind of thing or uh
 	
 	
 		right
 		yeah i uh
 		yeah it it for for years there has been an idea batted around of having some sort of alternative uh public service for uh young people to go into uh after high school um it
 	
 	
 		um-hum
 	
 	
 		kind of in in lieu of the draft for people for people who don't
 		uh who you know are conscientious objectors or don't otherwise wanna
 		uh be in the military you know say okay well you can go into the military or you can do this other thing for one or two years to kind of serve the community and and
 		learn about things and it's it's it's interesting because i i'm not a particular fan of the military
 		but i have seen a lot of people a lot of young guys go in that don't have
 		really a clue as to what they want to do with their lives and aren't terribly disciplined you know even even just personal discipline about what they want to do and
 		they come out and they they at least have now they have at least some marginally marketable skills
 		and more more discipline and they have uh you know in in some cases they have a greater self-esteem because they can say they can see that you know if i do something
 		pursue submit my own will to the will of the sargent or whatever at least for a short period of time i can accomplish a lot and it it's a good lesson for a lot of young men to learn
 		that they don't need to be you know cowboys they don't need to be out there and
 		uh you know constantly flaunting their ego to get things accomplished
 	
 	
 		
 
 	
 	
 		and you know for some for some young men that's good for me it would have been lousy idea idea uh because i i did have the the personal discipline and i went to college four years and got out you know so
 	
 	
 		why
 		why is that
 	
 	
 		but um you know for some people that's good i i don't particular like the fact that it's the military you know and because the whole point of the military is to kill people essentially as as an instrument of US foreign policy
 	
 	
 		oh no no no it's to defend the nation against external evils
 	
 	
 		well that's one view  and you know and
 		that's that's another debate but uh it's
 		um
 	
 	
 		well it depends on whether you whether we figure that we have that we have a defense oriented military or an aggressive aggression oriented military
 	
 	
 		um-hum
 		right right and just well it's
 		it it seems pretty aggressive aggressive oriented i mean you you look at the last mission military action which was in the Persian Gulf and wasn't anywhere near the United States
 		and it was um you know it was definitely a projection of US power
 		on the other side of the globe
 		so at at any rate this is getting off the topic but it my my point was that there is for people who don't want to do the military service there
 		it would be neat if there were an alternative that could instill the same sort of personal discipline and sense of purpose and um sense of community
 		that do do i guess the Boy Scouts