well Harris what was your most recent woodworking project my most recent woodworking project was i made an oak trash can oh all right all right it's the new thing around here is people want trash cans which match their kitchen cabinets oh that's rather clever i hadn't thought of that so and i'm if the definition of a professional means you get paid for it then i am one oh is that right yeah i really am in the telecommunications business but you know one has to do what you can do to make a buck huh well maybe a small business of woodworking on the side then do you have a lot of woodworking tools i got uh well your basic stuff your radial arm your table your drill press yeah what i don't do is i don't i don't turn that that's almost a whole another world i think well you know it you know i build boxes as people say yeah yeah well i subscribe to both Fine Home Building and Fine Woodworking uh-huh are you familiar with those oh yeah i am i don't get either one i look through them at the uh at the newsstand and buy them on occasion i get a a newspaper called the Workshop News and i get a uh um let's see i can't read the side of it huh uh Woodsmith i think it's called huh it's a you know a monthly sort of brown paper type of type of thing yeah yeah well the the thing i like about the two magazines i mentioned is they're so inspirational oh yeah oh i've looked through both of them you can just only afford to subscribe to so many that's right that's right i there's an i think i like the Fine Home Building better uh-huh in terms uh one of my projects is adding molding to a rather plain house uh yes now there you can get upside down and backwards doing crown molding that's right that's right you know as soon as you get your head upside down and backwards you're fine that describes it perfectly i made an armoire recently for my wife's store um and the top of it has curved crown molding oh boy that will yeah uh-huh it sure did even if you're an engineer by training that can be a little tricky can't it well what you had to it wasn't what i did was i made it up out of the crown molding around the top and the the tricky part was not making up the crown molding it was how did you cut it how did you miter the corners uh-huh i know i know i i've been through that uh do you do a lot of projects or is this is this just mostly a hobby uh-huh no i don't build it if somebody is not buying it oh okay i mean uh i build a uh i have a stock English garden bench which i make uh-huh which i instead of making out of redwood which is really dear on the east coast uh-huh is i make it up out of your regularly old forty CPI pressure treated lumber uh-huh and then paint it oh which saves on the cost uh-huh we have a lot of those at the building where i work and i think they're made out of teak yeah teak is awfully expensive but the the thing about teak is you can't set it on the ground you have to set it like on flagstone or concrete or something does it whit too badly or what yeah it's just not made for direct ground contact it pulls the it pulls the oil right out of it huh it it's all right outside if you go out every year and you know oil it but you know the the old green pressure treated you can ignore it if the paint falls off it's still not going to hurt the wood sure yeah you know the paint's only just to cover up the fact it's green it sounds like you're much more of a woodworker than i am i just kind of dabble in it i have done some refinishing oh oh uh-huh of antiques and semi-antiques uh-huh and a little bit of repair work on that sort of thing yeah i don't do a whole lot of that i've done some i one nice thing about living in this area is the Smithsonian nearby Smithsonian is nearby uh-huh and they have you can call them the their restoration lab and they're happy to talk to you oh is that right so you might file that if you don't mind paying the long distance charges huh their restoration labs will be very happy are very happy to talk to you and say you know and you say hey i've got on what do i do now i had no idea is the lab any place close to the mall or is it yeah it's very close to the mall it's actually located in the