i don't know what you drive now i mean what do you drive now uh i have a Ford pickup and uh the family car is a uh a Dodge uh Caravan and uh because we have three kids and they're under thirteen oh okay so um throw them in the back they sort of fit our requirement yeah i have a one of those uh pickups with the uh cap seat with a seat in the back oh yeah and so they just fit in there when they get to be teenagers with long legs it may not work but right now i can right now i can throw them all in the back when we have room and uh there you go and since i do a lot of projects i throw things in the back and i kind of like having a pickup truck actually i think of it as a as a car that'll last yeah you're right yeah i know i i like the way trucks are built and i don't care about comfort so i'm pretty happy yeah you're looking at i got a Toyota Four Runner i wanted a truck that i i wanted something that i could throw people in the back too so i got a Four Runner yeah so i wouldn't hesitate to get another one i i never buy new so i wouldn't hesitate to get another used truck you're just like me i've never bought a new vehicle in my life and uh yeah i don't i don't i don't need to pay for the glitz i'll let somebody else uh have the showroom shine enough and i'll pay for the rest of it no let somebody else break it in right right and uh the van we're sort sort of we might go again on a on a van uh we we could probably do with a a something just a little bit larger than a compact in a sedan next time i'm not sure yeah we have to we we'll have to face it in a couple of years but uh i i guess we had a small Toyota wagon right and we were real happy with that because uh my my second requirement after price is uh low maintenance and uh right that it certainly had that we didn't do much to it at all so yeah my my the pretty much the same i i got a like i said i got one of those Toyota Four Runners um-hum and uh it pretty much does everything i need it to i mean it it'll tow three thousand pounds so i can tow everything and it i can throw i've had eleven people in it before uh-huh believe it or not and uh it's real reliable believe i i mean i've had it for almost four years now and up until oh say two weeks ago it had never had anything wrong with it uh-huh and then of course two weeks ago it decided i don't know it's the strangest weirdest thing in the world but it blew a head gasket uh-oh didn't do any damage to it um i caught it real early uh-huh at how many at how many miles um oh ninety seven thousand so it's not real early huh and you didn't overheat it no never overheated it i smell i smelled the uh i smelled the coolant uh-huh went out and looked saw it was coming saw where it was coming from drove it right to the shop and left it off huh well that was minimum and that was it because i i have that and then i have a a Kawasaki motorcycle uh-huh which is actually the usually my preferred mode of transportation if i can take it and it's not raining yeah i mean that's that's sort of my hobby though more than a vehicle it it's a i don't know people who buy motorcycles for transportation i think are kidding themselves i have one colleague that uh commutes to work on one when it's not raining and uh uh he's a it's he's pretty conservative guy i don't think it's much of a sport for him i guess uh i know but i bet you he really enjoys riding it i'm sure he does yeah yeah so you know you how when was the last time you took out took your truck out just to just to go driving yeah no and i go out twice a week on the bike so at least just for the enjoyment yeah it's like yeah but yeah i i mean the only thing i think i might get in a new car or not necessarily a new car but a another car um i would consider going to a a non to a normal pickup rather than a a covered pickup like the one i got just because there's a lot of times i wished i had the uh just an open bed to throw stuff in right yeah i'm sure i'm sure that that's very i mean you got one it's that's really convenient just be able to throw that sort of stuff in the back and if i only had some place that i could store the uh camper top i would have it off most of the time right i really leave it on there just for just to have it out of the way because it put it on the ground it gets dirty and to have have it out of the way right but uh yeah they're solid uh trucks are built uh i mean i think they last a lot longer than anything else they're the only things Americans still know how to build and uh yeah yeah the trucks do um even though you know the Jap the little Jap trucks are are good there too but so are the though i think the Chevys i don't think the Chevy i don't like the Chevys as much as i like the Fords yeah i think they i think the Fords tend to last a little longer least until recently right i kind of like mine yeah so mine's a Ford and uh a friend of mine just bought or bought like a year ago it's it's a really a nice truck i mean i don't like Dodges at all but one of the Dodges they have out now has a uh the Cummins turbo diesel in it oh i heard about that yes ah it's beautiful that thing that thing will last forever i mean yeah that's the that's a serious truck oh yeah that thing's uh that it's got a boat engine in it right this uh i i know a contractor who just got one of those and he's pleased with it uh-huh