about you but i don't do whole lot uh i don't do a whole lot mostly i you know build stuff around the house uh kinds of things uh oh yeah yeah what what have you done that's um not too much put some chairs and cabinets and stuff back together and you know some book shelves and you know junk like that a little rack to hold the maps and you know mail stuff you know the uh stamps and all that kind of junk in to go hang in the kitchen yeah right well that's cool i used to do quite a bit when i was a little kid but um recently i haven't done much at all i i did uh i a while back i started refurbishing a piano we've had in our in our family for a long time it's an old antique upright oh and uh kind of started to do some work with and stuff sounds like a big project uh yeah it is and i really haven't had time to do much with it um it's a nice piano but it's just uh it's like uh like the intro said if you had more time and more tools you know but uh other than that i i haven't done a whole lot i did kind of make a coffee table out of a piano bench which was interesting uh-huh um and that worked out pretty well i actually gave that to a friend of mine since i really didn't have much use for it but uh so you you got your house then work out uh no we're renting a townhouse um so we're just and i just kind of had to have some kind of piddling to do all the time sure is that what you consider a hobby then for you excuse me would that would you consider that a hobby then um i guess sort of it mainly just you know i've all kind of have something all the time yeah yeah for me i don't know it's my brother is a is a contractor and he actually does quite a bit of carpentry and wood work uh-huh so i don't see him very often but last time i did we did some stuff he uh he had a job where he's putting in tongue and grooves slaps for a a ceiling actually and so i i helped him do some of that and uh uh-huh and like that but aside from that i'm a i'm a student at the University of Central Florida uh-huh oh that sounds good aside from my classes i don't do a lot of uh of woodworking per say i've got a lot of other hobbies but not necessarily that so yeah i i guess it's kind of depends what your how loose your definition of woodworking is most of the stuff i do is not you know carving or anything like that it's mostly you know sawing stuff you know gluing putting things together that sort of stuff right i actually would like to do more of it though i kind of get into it it's it's fun to get started on something you know and and actually have a project that you're working on you know yeah it's a lot of fun to have something that you're doing and uh you know it's when you're done with it there something there too right you you've actually created something and had input into it yeah and also it's it i don't know i don't know about you but it's kind of neat to see something that you can create out wood you know it's like woe yeah uh-huh didn't know you could do that but uh and also some of the the little tools and and techniques that that carpenters use um my girlfriend's father is also is also a contractor in terms of carpentry and stuff um-hum and he'd made her bed and i was actually taking a look at it and some of the stuff uh you could see the techniques that he used to reinforce uh the braces and things like that they're really pretty ingenious and i hadn't seen them anywhere else there were some some um timing Bruce slots there and some things some particular methods that he'd used um which were kind of neat and he's Vietnamese so i'm wondering if if maybe the cultural difference made a made a difference in the way he worked at yeah um i didn't ask him about it but i could be uh and seems like of uh stuff that people make with wood you know up until a couple of hundred years ago you didn't have a a abundance of iron or steel to join them together with right yeah they had to kind of use some uh some different renovative kind of techniques to do that with yeah where do you where do you live again uh the Washington DC area okay so i'm thinking that's primarily pine trees for the most part in that area uh not too bad it's about i guess half and a half pine trees and various hard woods of you know i'm thinking if you were to do something what kind of wood would you most likely use over there and i guess uh really you can get any any wood that's available but i'm thinking in terms of cost pine pine would probably be cheapest there yeah yeah pine or possibly oak maybe but pine definitely yeah oak is a lot better i think yeah yeah making pine seems hardly worth it because it's so soft yeah yeah it's real soft and and kind of pliable and that's that's not real good but uh it's easy to work with but usually it doesn't last because it comes apart yeah i used to live in a before i moved up to Minneapolis i i lived in a a duplex in Orlando and uh that had some work that had to be done with it some of the the door frames and things and uh i did a little bit of that and that was kind of interesting too kind of fun um-hum but uh for the most part down there it's it's once again it's pine or oak