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yes um i was wondering whether you were in favor of statehood independence or the status quo for Puerto Rico
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i was a
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resident although very young of the state of what is now the state of Alaska in nineteen fifty nine when Alaska stopped being a territory became a state
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uh so i guess i have a left over
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positive feeling about the question even though i don't know very much about Puerto Rico
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um i know that all the things that happened relative to that territory in Alaska have been very positive uh and i kind have a suspicion that that i
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believe that a that statehood is a good idea whenever you have a territory the size of Puerto Rico one ought either to make it a full-fledged state or or let it go one or the other
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what is your situation
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well i'm i guess
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i don't have such such close experience with with um an area becoming a state as you do
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um my concern is the economy because as i understand it Puerto Rico has a very low standard uh standard of living or at least um annual average income
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um part of this i suppose is justified in in in that the climate they don't need perhaps the heating and the housing that some of the the more northern territories need
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however in that case i guess i would favor status quo
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i have been to Puerto Rico and and found it very very interesting i did Peace Corps training there
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oh that's very interesting
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and so um you know i saw it also as a young student and and it was very foreign in a certain sense although i had grown up in California and so the Spanish was no problem
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um it was
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it was you know very lovely and and the people seemed very friendly and and nice i have actually i work with uh
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a girl from Puerto Rico and i guess i have never thought to ask her which she favors
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your concern on the economies was one in terms of if it became a state would that put even more pressures on on Puerto Rico or pressures on the US in terms of aid or
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well probably more on in terms of the US
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you know i'm i'm not quite sure how the US copes
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with this sort of thing i've lived abrode abroad most of my life so
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i guess i i've been very cut off uh i lived actually in Lebanon so i was very cut off from the
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the press as i was you know
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and uh becoming was becoming an adult so i don't know how the US would cope with it a
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um-hum
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new state that is so very very poor
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um-hum
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um i guess you know we'd have a lot of aid if if you consider the inner cities of
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like New York and and how much aid it needs i suppose the whole country or the whole um new state would require such aid
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i guess
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we're assuming that that Puerto Rico would be per capita significantly more poor perhaps than than say Mississippi or
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i think so
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okay
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that's something that that i guess i have not much of an image of other than
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than Puerto Rico as a tropical island and consequently large numbers of barefoot natives or something uh not in a
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pejorative sense but in a in a carefree sense i guess although i'm aware of the political problems and unrest and and and also difficulties they have
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um-hum
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um
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i don't know whether state would statehood would improve their economy i don't i don't know that the very the act of being a state
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would would have any impact on on them uh i guess they would have the ability to do some taxing that they don't have now but of course if their economy is weak that there is not much of a base on which to tax
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i don't know if they suffer
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in a sense of
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income loss as being since they aren't a state whether there are monies that escape them so to speak because they aren't able to tax like a typical state would be
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how do you feel though about
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well i guess it's to their advantage to be a territory but uh i wonder how having having been in a territory but only as a young student and my parents were in the military at the time so they didn't have ready negative feelings about being in the states in the
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Alaska at the time since they they voted absentee
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i i would imagine that it must be a little bit of a second feeling of second class citizenry
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uh to be in a territory that large and not being able to vote the District of Columbia people for instance are quite frustrated i think at times
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in their not having a Senate representative
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um-hum yeah those those are good points um which obviously i'd never thought about
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i don't know what uh i suppose
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they also not being a state are
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probably freer to determine their own
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um ways of life than they would if if
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i i'm trying to think exactly what is imposed if they would become a state versus a territory
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um-hum
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perhaps compulsory education
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uh i see what you mean so that
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and taxes
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yeah taxes would undoubtedly be occurring uh there i don't know i i don't even understand exactly how taxes are handled in a territorial situation
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frequently the laws in a territory are are in some ways as stringent as they are in other states i uh and i'm thinking in terms of education but then again each state sets its own and i don't know how a territorial governor takes care of something like Puerto Rico
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um it's interesting because i hadn't thought of them in terms of the problems relative to uh economy
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i had thought of it more in terms of political uh
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realization and i guess i had automatically made the assumption that gee anyone would rather be a state of the US than an independent country
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um-hum well well actually i think one one thing that i remember hearing in the news the past couple weeks that might be significant is that
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so
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they've recently voted that Spanish is the official language which i always assumed it was anyway
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um-hum
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so if they've just taken such action
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it would seem to indicate to me either they're doing it because they're afraid they might become a state and want
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to declare this before they become a state
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or maybe because they don't want to become a state for fear of losing the Spanish or Hispanic heritage
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uh-huh
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that's interesting
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well it sounds as though you are in favor of uh status quo
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i i believe i would probably tend towards that
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and i think uh having listened to you relative to the economy thing i think if i were being forced to make a decision i would plead ignorance and wait to do more research before picking one of these so i'm ultimately i guess i'm ultimately in favor of status quo also
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well that's interesting
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at this point
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leaning towards uh statehood
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right what about if if um they demanded to have Spanish as the official language
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as a condition for statehood
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i think i would be troubled i suspect i believe that any of our states and i i constitutionally i don't think there are any prescriptions about against that decision even if uh Louisiana chose to go with Creole or something
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i don't think there is any prohibitions i would be bothered by that i'm i'm bothered by any tendency to resist what i think was one of America's strengths and that's the the the melting pot uh i i
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am particularly fond of a number of ethnic cuisines but i'm troubled by too close a clinging to to the the past and i'm also realizing that that a common language i think is the ultimate bond of a country
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um
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and Canada i guess comes to my mind as they're going through the throes up there relative to French Quebec and whatever uh that i i think that would be
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a a negative step to make and i think that that they would need to reassess that
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i'm troubled even in by bilingualism uh in so far as t hat it intrudes it gets in the way of of of the melting pot aspect
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um-hum um-hum
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that's interesting because
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although i tend to be bilingual Spanish based on experience
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i was in bilingual education in California and
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i didn't have any problem with my students but i noticed my
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my brother who who was uh quite a bit younger
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was learning Spanish in elementar y school and he can't speak a word
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hum
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and so obviously it didn't work in California
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yeah
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but i'm rather in favor of people being bilingual and i'd be quite happy to see a national law in which every student was required to learn English and a second language
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right
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right
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but i'm i'm disturbed by a country that attempts to be functionally bilingual at the official level
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oh i see
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i'm i'm concerned about whether or not that causes fractiousness i guess
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um-hum um-hum
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well i think we have gone to time and i appreciate your having called
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okay okay well thank you very much
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good-bye
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bye-bye
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