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 		you want to start
 	
 	
 		well i guess i would
 		first identify myself as middle aged and therefore having seen the last generation i guess it puts me in you know gives me a perspective on that
 	
 	
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		um
 		i  am quite positive on the things that i have seen happen recently relative to women in
 		both in society and in the work place uh
 		there's no doubt about the fact that when i first was first graduated from college the impression was that
 		a woman's career would consist of a childbearing years and perhaps a return to the office but not necessarily
 		uh now i think the change that i've seen as much as anything is one where
 		couples uh are more carefully planning their intention on how to share both share homemaking duties and also how women will
 		uh have their children and then deliberately sort of plan how they go back to the work place
 		and i guess that's a significant change that of i've both participated in and and noticed
 	
 	
 		i agree um the equality of uh the roles now between the sexes i guess has been dramatically
 		demonstrated with this war especially compared with uh the Vietnam war and you see women going off to wars as well as men
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		um i have wondered why they allowed or let you know both the father and mother
 		go uh and the children are left without either parent now to me that's kind of a drawback
 		but uh i guess it's a price you pay
 		and i also wonder about the children that are being brought up
 		in the uh
 		uh day care centers
 	
 	
 		wonder about them in what way
 	
 	
 		well uh from what i understand there's been studies that uh these children are uh more rebellious
 		uh they term it as more uh
 		creative
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		but uh that they uh are much more contentious
 		so i i don't i i guess we'll have to see another generation
 		to see what differences
 		a child being brought up you know in in a uh kind of a uh community
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		rather than a home
 	
 	
 		i have not to be honest had much experience
 	
 	
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		with children in that situation i i guess one knows one's own storly and i know
 		uh in my children's case it was one where uh pretty much up until
 		the older of two was in
 		uh let's see i guess basically starting junior high and the younger was in fifth grade when my wife reentered the work force
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		um
 		
 
 		so i guess my experience is is just with what we did and and so they didn't really go through the child care route they were able to be home together
 	
 	
 		so they
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		um
 		and we never actually experienced that
 		what in terms of changes relative to women in the work place and and potential changes over the the next
 		generation or so i guess i anticipate um
 		an increasing equality uh greater presence of women in management roles
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		um
 		i don't know whether
 		there will be
 		an increased amount of of surrogacy that we see i just don't know
 	
 	
 		what do you mean
 	
 	
 		um deliberate childbirth by surrogate mother
 	
 	
 		oh yeah
 	
 	
 		sort of rent a mom to be you know not to be crass about it but uh
 	
 	
 		yeah
 		that's strange
 	
 	
 		uh whether one might conceive  no pun intended of the possibility that there might be a kind of a deliberate uh um
 	
 	
 		a nanny sort of
 	
 	
 		a professional mother a person
 	
 	
 		uh-huh uh-huh
 	
 	
 		for instance that and i could you know i could envision a society where that would happen and make an interesting uh
 		uh story or whatever i i don't think i have a philosophical problem with that in fact i think it sort of raises
 	
 	
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		nurturing and being a mother to what it ought to be which is a respected profession
 	
 	
 		that's right that's right
 	
 	
 		uh um
 		i i don't have a other than than a reading and and male perspective on on
 		the various on the biological urges involved relative to being a mother or not
 		uh i know that that my sense is that i have
 		very much an interest and had one in being a parent i i don't know that i
 		uh felt myself necessarily encumbered with the necessity to have heirs
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		uh i don't have boys that doesn't didn't bother me never has vision more women deliberately raising children either in surrogacy or
 		or as a professional nanny nanny as you put it uh
 	
 	
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		maybe we'll see a growth in that where someone makes uh a career out of say taking care of five or six children as opposed to day care
 	
 	
 		uh-huh uh-huh
 	
 	
 		it would be a sort of day care but it would be more of a family setting
 	
 	
 		right
 	
 	
 		um i know that there are young people
 		characterized i guess as being half my age so that by definition that means they're young uh
 		that in my work place who are both of them earning rather
 		decent professional salaries who probably would consider paying
 		a woman uh eight or nine or ten thousand dollars a year to take care of their child i could easily envision that pardon
 	
 	
 		to come in and live with them to come in and live with them
 	
 	
 		or to put their child into a setting into a home setting where they would you know like they they would get leave at eight in the morning and and drop a two year old off in a home where you knew there were going to be four other kids and
 	
 	
 		
 
 		uh-huh
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		and you were paying for really high quality care
 	
 	
 		right
 	
 	
 		uh i have
 		acquaintances of mine where i know that they are paying figures on on the order of what i quoted to someone because that's what the experience they want
 		and i would imagine if there are more of people like that with an opportunity that that's a possibility of a change that we could see in the next few years
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 		and then you might have more control over uh the the morals that they would be taught rather than
 		in like a classroom or a day care center
 	
 	
 		um-hum um-hum
 	
 	
 		i know the day care centers are not cheap either
 		you know they're
 	
 	
 		i haven't ever really looked at them are you aware at all of of what they would what they cost
 	
 	
 		uh well no i just know i know several single mothers who absolutely can't afford it they have to go with the a single
 		uh what i mean a babysitter more more or less
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		but i think it's like about sixty dollars a week
 		for two children if i'm not mistaken
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		and you have to pay that whether you're on vacation you know and taking care of the children or if the children are at home at home sick
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		i mean that is you know just a a rate that you have to pay
 		and uh
 	
 	
 		what do you envision for the next twenty years as far as women in American society
 	
 	
 		uh
 		i think
 		i really don't have a vision
 		
 
 	
 	
 		that's okay too
 	
 	
 		yeah
 		i um
 		i think that they will be more in the work place because
 		uh the door's open
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 	
 	
 		and uh it's just human nature to walk through an open door
 		so and i would be glad to see that
 		i hope i don't see a lot more single moms
 		but
 		i it seems in my experience i'm running across single women all the time
 	
 	
 		i'm i'm noticing that too and and i notice the the a terming  emerging called solo parents that i am very aware of
 	
 	
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		the number of solo mothers that that i encounter in the work place and that that is a little troublesome
 	
 	
 		yeah
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		uh because the pressures on them are are rather rather formidable
 	
 	
 		it's awful
 		yeah
 	
 	
 		uh and maybe that's a change we'll see maybe uh possibility the possibility of of women
 		uh who deliberately say no we'll let the man will take care of the children perhaps in the event of a separation or whatever
 	
 	
 		uh-huh
 		right
 	
 	
 		so
 	
 	
 		well i think we've done it  thank you very much it's been interesting
 	
 	
 		well i think we're about done okay uh good bye
 		you take care bye
 	
 	
 		okay bye