all right
um one thing you know that i always think about when i think of public education because i went through the public um school system of Boston and uh
uh-huh
i always felt
that i graduated high school and i still didn't even i i i couldn't put together a map of the United States
hm uh-huh
you know what i mean and yet i felt that i got a good education and and i did well in school but you tell me to name you know
five continents and i couldn't do it i just feel like there are some real basics that are missing from education
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huh
and that people are are leaving school not even knowing some common sense things
yeah when uh well talking about public education um
i was just just i'm we're doing a proposal at we're doing at NC State
um-hum
yeah
we're trying to improve the computer science curriculum
um-hum
so that's kind of at a higher level
right
so it's interesting that you chose that topic
yeah
um did you go through a a public school system or a private
yeah well i went through private until ninth grade
um-hum did you notice a big difference
yeah
oh yeah big difference
like in what sense
well um
in uh public schools i guess
there were there are a lot of you know people can take lower level courses and get away with learning nothing
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but um in private school you couldn't do that you know you had to learn
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yeah
i work in a temporary agency and there are people that come in you know everyday to fill out an application and
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they'll have to bring somebody with them and they will show that they completed um four years of high school yet when it comes to even answering the questions on a simple application
huh
they can't read enough to be able to fill out the answers by themselves
it's bad
it's just incredible
yeah our state just cut a whole bunch of uh like
think it's ten million dollars out of the school budget
really
so we're making all kinds of cuts in college
people cannot i mean the teachers can't make tests anymore and the the library's canceling all it's subscription
yeah
it's pretty sorry
i know um they uh i forget what i think it's um
someplace in New York
because they're having budget problems they're closing the libraries
uh-huh
yeah
i mean they're not getting rid of any of the sports
huh
or anything like that they're not cutting in any other corner they're closing the libraries that to me shows a little uh switch in priorities you know
and uh
yeah
so do you go to college right now are you in
yeah it's my last year
you're so you're a senior now
yeah i'm working on my projects trying to
graduate
oh good for you that's great um is is NC University is that uh uh state what'd you say
yeah
NC State
NC State
NC State that's a state university then i see and you're from there also
yeah
well yeah i was uh
i was born in Raleigh and then i lived in Winston-Salem rest of my life
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so now i'm back here going to school
well pretty soon it's gonna get to the point where no one's gonna be able to afford to send their kids to college or to go to college
yeah
it's just outrageously expensive
luckily State's the cheap one of the cheap ones
oh is it well still though i mean you know thousands of dollars
yeah
yeah state's not that bad
oh well that's good that's good i went to a private university and um
yeah
i i don't know i look back now and i i think that i probably would've done it differently if i um you know could do it over again but um
yeah
i i have a lot of friends that went to state schools or
didn't even go to school some some of them and i still feel like they came out knowing just as much as i did
i really do and that's probably a pretty sad thing to say but um i don't know i i what
yeah where'd you go
where did you go sorry
i went to Brandeis University it's in Massachusetts
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and um
i i really felt like i've been working now for about four years
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and i i feel like what what i've learned working is a hundred times more valuable than what i learned in school
huh
and i know that i'm drawing a lot on what i learned in school you know i i probably just subconsciously rely a lot on on learned but um
i don't know my sister's a principal at a school and one thing that she's trying to instill in kids um besides just reading and writing
um are just some the golden rules she calls them just some basics about um you know you don't take what's not yours
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uh and and if you want to you know you don't touch anybody else unless you have their permission like no hitting you know no pulling hair or anything like that
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and uh the school that she's in is a um it's basically for minorities um there's uh a large minority population and um
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she's really noticed that
even some of the teachers that work there i think they don't value that type of student as much as you get in some
yeah that's sorry that that that they like pick on you know that the advanced stud ents and pay more attention to them ignore the others
yeah it's true um-hum
yeah
and i don't know if it makes them feel better i mean do teachers get i mean personally i would get more satisfaction out of taking somebody that wasn't as successful
yeah
and seeing what they could do versus somebody that you know did excel in in areas and just watching them get better you know that's not much of a challenge
yeah that's true
but
are do you have any idea what you're gonna go into when you graduate
um graduate school yeah
oh yeah
do you know where yo u're going
i think i'm going to Chapel Hill
where's that
that's in Chapel Hill that's the name yeah never heard of the Tarheels
oh is that North Carolina oh okay
no i don't know that area
the ACC Tarheels UNC
i don't know it
oh well
i don't get down there very often
they were in the final four don't watch basketball
oh really well the way i pick the final four was um by the the state that had the warmest climate
uh-huh
so that's how i chose all mine so you can tell that i didn't really have
that much to do with any of it
but so obviously you're into education if you can be going my husband went to is in graduate school actually right now
no yeah
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and uh i don't know i give you a lot of credit i i couldn't do it i i couldn't wait to graduate and have it be all over
yeah i know
ah i can't wait to graduate either now i got all these stuff due oh wow
i know
yeah i kind of know what you mean
overloaded
well it was really nice talking to you okay good luck alrighty take care bye-bye
all right
all right thank you
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