well i personally don't have any problem with uh drug testing employees or potential employees do you
um
i mean basically
basically no um
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okay i don't i really can't disagree with it
yeah i i uh uh the policy that TI has i think is uh uh very fair
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um i
they first had a policy where they uh would test new employees and then since i've been with them the last four years uh there's been in the last year year and a half um they're doing random testing of all employees
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i think that's really the only fair way to do it
yes
i really think it ought to be some you know Junkins all the way down
and it is it and from from what i understand it is Jerry Junkins all the way down
right as a matter of fact i want to think they took the top managers first isn't that a fact
i've been retired from TI about a year but the program you know was still fairly new i guess it had been going on maybe almost a year
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before i retired so i was not uh ever called upon to do a drug test i certainly wouldn't object to it and i think random is probably you know the only really fair way to do it
yeah um i like it because um you know i i i grew up in the sixties i mean i graduated high school in sixty eight and
and uh you know i i saw you know i know my friends who were you know druggies and friends who weren't and and uh you know it's i think it's a real problem
oh i absolutely
and i think it and i think it's causing us a lot of trouble and and a lot of problems
yeah
uh-huh
and so i'm hoping that uh a lot of other companies will will follow the same path
i don't think they'll have much choice do you
um probably not
especially if they have anything do with you know government contracts or anything as matter of fact i want to believe that the uh
defense department more or less mandated that people you know who work on defense contracts you know some do some sort of you know drug testing i think that's really what maybe prompted TI to do it i was in the uh
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Defense Electronic Division when i retired i know it was a you know it was a real hot hot item there i think i want to think maybe they you know really got some nudging from you know D O D to do this sort of thing
yeah i used to be in DSEG myself
um A P D as a matter of fact
yeah so you knew you know the atmosphere then
yep
very aware of it but i i'd i'd i really like the idea uh in fact i would like to see uh a lot more uh people uh adopt it uh like you know school systems and that kind of thing
i mean i'd like i'd like to know that my child's being taught by a teacher who's not on drugs or
that's right
or uh who might be at a point where they're trying to sell my kid drugs
that's right absolutely yeah i don't i just can't disagree with you with you know the basic premise
yeah
it's to much as far as i know it's you know seems to be a fairly accurate program as far as uh you know the testing goes
and i like the idea that they have a uh system where they allow you to uh be retested if for some reason there may have been a problem or something did show up
that's right
that's right
and offer you you know help if you need help
yeah yeah
yeah i do too
yeah rather than just uh
put you out on the street
put you out on the street and let you fend for yourself
yeah
that's right
that's not going to help anybody get over the problem i believe it is a a a medical problem
no absolute
that's right
um of course i also think smoking is the most addictive thing in the world too
oh absolutely not to mention alcohol
yeah so i mean there's a lot of things out there and
things that uh
i'm just glad that they uh decided not to uh tax drugs otherwise they'd be legal and they'd be getting tax money off it the same way they are the alcohol and tobacco
that's right that's right oh gosh well it's it's a real problem i'm sure
yeah
i have friends that work in other companies that are just now adopting the policy and and stuff and i uh uh i moved to a TI facility that um had never had uh random drug sampling before
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because they were outside of the military sector it was uh an industrial company and you know that TI purchased and so the people here a lot of them are real opposed to it
right uh-huh
oh yeah uh-huh
uh they were really opposed to it and you know there was a few of them that obviously were doing drugs and that's why they were opposed to it
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that's right
and uh it resulted in in a few people leaving
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you know because they just flat out weren't going to put up with the policy
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you know they had a lifestyle and they weren't going to change it
yep right yeah i know a lot of people who
and it's
when it first began or at least began was in the talking stage you know everybody knew it was coming it just a matter of time everybody was screaming you know invasion of privacy and all this stuff
but a lot of people i think after they thought about it for awhile and you know weighed the pros and cons decided you know it's really not a bad idea unless you're doing drugs of course
yeah
yeah i mean uh you should have no objection to it it's like uh going down to get your license and checking your eyes i mean you know why do i need my eyes checked well we want to make sure you can see
that's right
that's right yep yep
why are we doing this well so you don't kill people on the road
that's right or yourself or
uh it's a basic i mean it's the basic premise with you know drug testing
yeah
that's right
especially some of the jobs um
luckily i've always been in the engineering sector and it's very little that anyone could do in the engineering sector as far as uh you know hurting someone i mean it's hard to imagine somebody misusing a computer and somebody dying from it
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uh-huh
yeah that's true
but uh in the manufacturing sectors and over in semiconductor and down in some of those labs and stuff
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yeah assembly people
yeah i darn if i'd want somebody down there that i'm working with side by side you know that could kill me
that's right
by doing something incorrectly because they were
not exactly all there because they were on drugs
absolutely
so there's a there's a lot of sectors where i think that would would help out and i think in the long run we all benefit
uh-huh oh absolutely yeah
i mean if you have uh
you know if you're not working with someone on drugs well then you're going to have less accidents and you have less accidents and you spend less money on medical and you spend less money on medical then the company's more profitable
uh-huh
yeah sure
well then the company's more profitable then maybe they can pay you more if they can pay you more you can buy more and then and it and it goes around you know to everywhere
sure
trickles trickles up and down
yep all over
sure does
and uh
yeah affects a lot of people
it certainly does and
yeah
i i just hope that uh more and more companies uh get on the ball and and start it up
uh-huh
i think they probably will you know if they i'm sure it's a very expensive program to administer
i'm not sure every small company could do it
well a lot of companies are are coming down in price and i think that the insurance companies are starting to give uh benefits
you know reduction reduction in in medical costs if you know they
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yeah yeah it's got to help them too
yeah so i think everybody will will benefit from the program
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yeah i do too that's right
and i think if if a lot more insurance companies get on the bandwagon and say well if you impose uh
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mandatory drug testing we'll reduce your insurance costs by you know twenty per cent and of course you know the company's not going to reduce the employee's cost of insurance twenty per cent they're going to reduce their own
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no no but it it'll save in some areas yeah right
yeah and that'll cover it and maybe some insurance companies might start offering it as a uh
as part of the package
that's right
that certainly could happen that's a very very very very competitive business
yeah so it i i think
i think all around it it's going to help out a lot course
yeah i do too
i just really can't disagree with you
yeah
okay well it's nice to talk to you
it was great talking with you
and you take care
you do the same
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