okay Liz do you have any children
i do but they're but they're both out of college so i have one who's uh living in an apartment in another city
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and i have one who's actually living with me because um because of the economy and the job that she's got but she's about
oh
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she's on the verge of moving to her own apartment so what about you
oh uh-huh well we have five children and uh their ages range from range from twelve to four
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oh little ones then
uh yep and uh
yeah
uh some things we like to do together with our family are um in the summer time we like to go to parks we
that's our thing we pack up a picnic and and go to every park from Northern Utah to Southern Utah
wow oh you mean like state parks that kind of
well mostly mostly just play parks yeah so
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um with the with the kids and such we don't get a lot of vacationing in so we just like to take little weekend trips and go to parks and such
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so
you probably have pretty ones there when you were saying parks i was just uh we have a different terrain here so
oh uh-huh
yep when i was a teenager i spent some time with my cousins in Dallas
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and so i i remember it's pretty it is flat oh
it's flat
yes so the mountains would take a while to get around to to find any there are some as a matter of fact but um what other things do the kids like to do
uh-huh
yeah
well we like to
like weekends or during during during the winter do they ski or
weekends um
no we're not into skiing it's just too expensive we
it is expensive yeah
we can't do that so um we like to uh rent videos and sit down and have a video bash pop popcorn and
yeah
um-hum
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yeah that's fun
and do that so we've done that quite a bit this winter and um we like to play board games together sometimes it's a little difficult with the younger one um
yes that's
but the three older boys we have some fun times with those after the little girls go to bed
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and let's see uh we like to get real wild and crazy and play hide and go seek and oh yeah things like that
all of those things yeah
well the twelve year old probably feels he or she's much older than the four year old so there should be different activities in in their minds at at any rate yeah
oh yes
yeah yeah he's really patient though he with us he's he's a real fun twelve year old so
well that's good
but he's rapidly approaching teenagehood so we'll see what happens
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your first experience with it well it um it's interesting there's a dramatic change at thirteen and it doesn't end until about twenty five but
yeah uh-huh
oh
oh boy
it's part of what's supposed to happen or they can't fly the nest so um that's that's one way of looking at it
anyway i was trying to think what what what we spent a lot of time well reading i loved to read to the kids when they were when they were younger uh obviously not any more but
oh
oh uh-huh
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and uh we still we
like um Disney movies we really got into them when they were young there were a number of movies that we liked and we just simply liked the experience of the movies and um
oh
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ironically uh my twenty seven my twenty four and my twenty two year old last year for Christmas we rented um Jungle Book you know
oh how fun
and uh i gave one of them Jungle Book and one of them Fantasia for Christmas this year and it was one of their favorite gifts so
oh
oh i think that's fun
so that's something and besides the another thing we used to do is watch PBS together which there were a lot of um my son loves science programs and um
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oh
yeah
we would all just stop and watch whatever the mountain lions were doing or whatever was going on
yes i think that is good that sounds
yeah which was which was fun yeah and so
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now were you able to get away on some vacations and
yeah we did and um and we enjoyed that um my now we my kids back when they were younger younger got did we would go from here to like Colorado and ski
oh oh how fun
and they did both uh learn to be scuba divers
oh
uh we went once on a vacation with my parents
to an island and they snorkeled and that that really got them you know fascinated with the deep and so they actually went through all the course and all the trouble in the middle of Missouri as we were living in Kansas City then
oh how fun
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oh wow
and uh went and i don't can't remember what it's called uh but it's