okay well um let's see
i understand you have more aggressive laws both in uh Washington and in Oregon than than we down here in Dallas
well um yeah possibly um i'm not familiar with the laws in Texas but we've got a citywide recycling program here in Seattle that's um
uh well well it's it's it's really amazing how many what's that
is it mandatory
is it mandatory
um well they give you really good incentives uh they pick up the recycled goods they give you they drop off containers at your house
so it's like it's like garbage collection um and you don't pay for it
uh-huh
and uh you same
uh basically at the same time they jack the garbage rates way up and and made it so you had to have city provided garbage cans that were of uniform size
uh-huh
so we were amazed when we you know recycling's one of these things that we did kind of once and awhile but it was
uh you know something that i always put off because you had to haul the stuff and
and so i you know we didn't do it much but i was amazed at how much we reduced
the uh
the volume
the uh the volume of our trash
well Ted down here we've had the uh containers available in you know various public places now since the mid seventies
but just in the last few days there's been a proposal now to have uh
i believe it's about six times four to six times a month they'll have a curb pick-up they'll give you containers
that are color coded so you can put cans and glass and
yeah it's like what we have yeah
but the difference is we have to pay for that
oh really
about three dollars and um twenty cents or so or something like that i i was about half asleep when they were talking about it on the news but um
it is not going to go over too well as long as you have to pay a premium to participate i don't believe
yeah unless they structure the garbage rates so that uh you know it like works out to be cheaper
well the garbage rates here are high however as long as you bag it in plastic bags you can put out up to ten or twelve bags of of trash
oh my yeah they stopped that here they used to have it so that like you could get two can service and you could have huge cans you know that you furnished yourself
uh-huh
and then you could put a bag out with each can and in fact if you put out more than that they'd pick it up anyway and now they've really tightened up course there's some down sides to this too um
there's i don't i i don't know i hear that there's more of a problem with illegal dumping
after this when it you know after the rates went up
i suspect we're having some of that here too
and
yeah and then uh the other thing is what do they do with all the stuff they're just they're going to recycle they now have this huge glut of paper
um and it's difficult to find markets for it so the as a result the um price of
recycled paper has gone way down because you know there isn't there isn't enough demand for it all
yes
well we've had some what the same problem here i think newsprint's down something like um
under a dollar now per hundred weight
oh my
and it used to be two and three and i think it even got above three at one point
yeah remember when the boy scouts used to do paper drives and make money
yes yes
there used to be a recycling center where you'd take things in and you know they'd weigh it and pay you and they had paper and of course aluminum cans which are still very viable here
yeah
and they had uh clear glass and colored glass
but i noticed recently that place has closed up
now my daughter's really active active in some of this and she there's a place
oh about eight or nine miles well i guess it's about six miles from here where you can go and
uh few things they pay you for most things they just take
yeah
but um
the movement here has not really progressed there's
Texas is always slow on a lot of these things
yeah i understand until recently you could actually have an open container in your in your pick-up as you go down the road there
um yeah that was kind of disastrous
of course we've had um major problems with them
driving while intoxicated and all that i think they're finally starting to get things a little a little more squared away
but they're a long way from that yet uh Texas has always had a tradition of uh
people staying away from i mean laws the laws really leaving you alone unless you were clearly doing something
right uh it's it's out of the old west you know like you know
yes
just recently there there now uh
well up until recently you could have a a rifle behind the seat of your pickup and all that kind of stuff and now they're starting to discourage you from that um
yeah
and in there's parts of town here now where
