and you say you have some strong feelings about uh the issue
uh yes i do as far as uh
as far as uh
as far as immigration as a whole goes
uh-huh
i think that uh we simply must start
accepting everybody in the world
uh-huh
uh i there just is not gonna be room for all of us we don't have jobs now
i i think uh i think when we come to a time of recession that it's particularly important that we shut our doors at that time
um hope you're one of the employed right now
uh-huh
i am one of the unemployed right now
i was a systems analyst and programmer for an oil company
and uh
i applied for one set of jobs with a company here in Dallas that they had two hundred openings but they had two thousand applications
oh
and i know that there are a lot of foreigners uh here you you know doing my line of work
uh-huh
and of course i'm not perfectly happy about not having a job
right
so how do you feel
well i'm a little bit ambivalent the problem with uh
and i think one of the problems with immigration policy is like any other political problem is that people are not willing to discuss it uh in
in terms of what uh really is driving it they're not willing to tell the truth the same way with um uh issues of uh race and things like that
i mean right now
um i believe there are two policies that uh that the government uses to modulate immigration three actually
one is at the high end uh they always wanna be able to um do some brain draining
they'd always like to be able to attract the uh Einsteins or the Professor Chou or you know they'd like to be able to get the top people in any field and so they can almost always find room for someone like that
right
at the bottom end
they um
are always willing to um let in cheap labor if it lowers the cost of doing business in some particular area and has strong support from the powerful people in that area
those are two things that i think are going on although they i i i don't think the politicians would tell you that
okay and i think you're right in both cases
and then the third thing is uh the political aspect of uh uh letting steam come out from under the lid in Mexico
they cannot close off the Mexican border not because it's physically impossible but because the explosion that would take place in Mexico would be uh
uh would spill over to this country so they keep allowing um the pressure cooker to um
let off steam
and i think probably it's pretty important right there how do you feel about Haitian immigration
uh that's one of the few things i guess i found myself in agreement with Pat Buchanan
i think they're very difficult group to integrate into uh society they're very difficult um group to find jobs and uh and uh places for
and so um um i don't deny that we may have been involved in causing the problem that uh in that they're pretty miserable where they are
but i'm not to sympathetic about um
letting large numbers of Haitians in
actually
actually i feel that if we accepted these people
that we would eventually have almost the total population here
yeah
and it would have nothing to do with political situations it would have to do with poverty
right
but if you let them yeah if you let them in a million at a time it wouldn't make that you know it wouldn't make that big a bulge in the population but politically politically and economically
oh my gosh have you been to have you been to Southern Florida
yeah well i know about it uh i mean it's it is now with Haitians the way it was with Cubans uh twenty years ago
well i mean and the two of them together i mean we can it's just as well you know it's hardly America anymore
on the other hand you know it the ironic thing about this is that there's
nobody more full of the entrepreneurial American spirit than a first generation immigrant
so there's uh uh there's a lot to be said for having a steady stream of people who know how it is someplace else coming in
but there's some differences in the immigrants
that that we're getting now well in i particularly have a problem with the illegal immigration
right
sure
i think probably your your a great deal of what you say is true about the legals
right
but uh the majority of the illegal immigration we're getting now they do not come here to blend into America
uh they they don't bother to learn our language
and uh first of all they've they've i'm sorry this i really feel strongly about this we send a lot of money to Mexico
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