to uh trial by jury and whether it works or not is
hey i like the current system
yeah i expect it's um about as good as one can expect um
i suppose you get an illogical verdict now and then but uh
yeah yeah i figure the answer to that is to educate the consumers or the uh
the
the jurors you mean the people
right just
yeah i just got called to my first jury duty uh-huh
i never been on a jury how about you
hey
two weeks ago
first time i was ever called
and were you did you did you show up and do it or whatever it was
oh yeah i showed up but uh the case settled before they could uh
make us uh actually listen to anything so i have no idea what the case was about or uh you know i didn't get to do anything
my brother was on some real complex business case where they were um
decide to asked to decide the exact amount to the penny of fraud in some credit card case you know
wait so the jury had to like go over
ledgers and financial records and
well they went over it in the trial but they didn't give the stuff to the jury afterward it was really bizarre uh
wait a second don't
don't they have to enter that in as evidence and can't the jury request any piece of it
yeah but they have to ask for it and then the the bailiff brings it and they can look at it then the bailiff takes it away again it's not like they can just spread it out in their jury room and then you know get out a bunch of calculators and pocket computers and add it all up it was
right the the jurors request an IBM three seventy
yeah right would you give me an IDMS IDMS system or something like that dear judge
you know it was it was a very peculiar case i guess that one was didn't work very well um uh but
whoa that i'm not sure that's the jury's fault
no no i don't think so either um
but i don't know what else they could've done
yeah yeah um i guess i guess nothing else but uh
TI suggests just giving it to the judge but uh
well
for sentencing i don't know does that make any sense i mean
it depends on what i i don't know what the offense is i guess that's why we have juries is to take each case on a case by case basis and that's fine
anyway um
no i mean the jury
there's problems with it as far as finding jurors as far as weird verdicts
as far as just the timing the timing you know it takes a lot of time
but uh
you know i like it because i think
you don't have the abuse or it's a sort of a check
if you have one guy doing something he can sort of
go out of control and it's a long time before he gets reigned in
yeah or if it's an organizational problem you know where where you know the
and he can do a lot of damage
you know it's possible to imagine a corrupt judicial system where you know all the judges are are
part of the system i guess that happened in Chicago once huh
yeah
yeah
or just even one guy just before you get a chance to uh
you know to uh purge him
he could do a lot of damage
yeah yeah i guess they do anyway i guess
the only trouble with the jury system i see is it's really darned darned expensive and and you know time consuming and
you know and and all these systems of where you can like
ask a jury ask each juror what they think about something then kick them out and
you know i guess they can manipulate it a little
you know maybe some of the uh
like the hype
needs to be cut out
but you mention expense
yeah
i think you get what you pay for
yeah it's true no lie
you know if you want a cheap legal system you're you're gonna get that kind of
Kmart service or uh
well Kmart's not all that bad
there's got to be some sort of cheap
what's the epitome of cheap these days
beats me um
yeah in in Massachusetts it's the judicial system their buildings are all falling down
well i guess that gets them the sample
good night sir
all right good luck
take it easy