all right um i think the topic was crime in the city
right
i do not live in a city i live in a real small little place
where is that
uh it's about thirty miles from Sherman
north south east or west
it's north of Sherman
well you live almost in Oklahoma
uh it not too far
yeah that's kind of ironic because i don't live too far from Oklahoma either
huh
you know where Saint Joe is
uh i've been through there
i'm about eight miles south of it
okay oh yeah i had been through Saint Joe but um just as far as you know watching the news and reading the papers and all that it sounds like the crimes in the cities are really getting bad
well you know
i've i've seen those statistics and everything
and you know what frightens me
is that you put a half a million people out in the middle of the desert
um-hum
with high tech weaponry
you know i mean
the Iraqis didn't have a lot of high-tech weaponry but they had mortars and machine guns tanks and all that
oh yeah
sure
and they didn't kill as many people in
in forty five days
and they were intending to kill people i mean that was their job
uh-huh
as they killed in Washington DC
oh i know i know
i know um people i think nowadays people just really just murder is nothing to them you know
well
i formulated a pretty radical theory
over the last ten years i guess
and
i've come to the conclusion
and this is
a pretty scary thought to me even
that if a guy is convicted or a gal is convicted of a crime
rather than put them in prison because prison's proven not to work
just let them go
say okay you're convicted
uh-huh
and just let them go
yeah
and if they get convicted again
well just kill them
um-hum yeah because uh most likely that will happen won't it that you know
well i think that
the best hope
to eliminate
crime
as we know it today
um-hum
is to eliminate the criminals from society
uh-huh
if someone is known to have been in prison they can't get a job
no
you know they can't be accepted into society
yeah
you know if they're not going to be accepted into society then everybody's going to become sociopathic
um-hum
and you know who's to put the limit on it
i mean i was watching a thing last night up in Washington State
if you get convicted of uh
sexual offenses
on a regular basis i mean some of these guys are forty years old and got ten convictions
uh-huh
and they're still let out on the street after one or two years
well in Washington State if you're a habitual sexual offender
they just don't let you out
hum
uh you serve your prison term
and then you go into the mental hospital and if you're pronounced cured they'll let you go
uh-huh
well
they may find a cure for it but there is no known cure now
hum so you're you're kind of thinking in other words if you get if you do something the first time that's not real bad you know
hey people make mistakes
yeah to go ahead and let them go but if they do it again and they really need to face the consequences then uh
well
yeah use that or you know there's other consequences rather than killing them you know you could always make them the slave of the people they committed the crime against
oh
um-hum
um-hum
you know
at least they might be some benefit in that and if the people they committed a crime against
yeah
feel at some later date that these people have learned their lesson are are okay you know well they can free them
uh-huh
but uh you know with the technology technology we have today you can put a collar on a guys leg
that will knock him down if they leave the property
i mean it will just in incapacitate them
uh-huh
and you can put a collar around a guys leg
that will
prohibit them
from committing any kind of
you know prohibitive act
uh-huh
but you know putting them in prison my God that doesn't work
no apparently not because look how many years they've been doing that and look i mean yeah
well you look at places like Turkey
Turkey has death penalty for just about everything
um-hum
uh-huh
i mean if you get
convicted of uh you know drug trafficking they just kill you
you get convicted of uh
you know uh heinous crimes
they just kill you i mean there's no two ways about it
uh-huh
and uh
you look at their society and the repeat offenders are very few
you know and you look at our society
almost everyone out on the street
that has been in prison has been in prison three or four times
three or four times yeah
right i mean you know
that is true i know
you know the way to stop that kind of behavior
is this two fold
one
you need to make it illegal for
both parents to work while the kids are under seven
i i think that's very important
oh i'm i agree very much so on that i yeah
and then
if a parent has proved to be unfit
for any reason
um-hum
take t he kids away from the parents
yeah
because
you know we are what we teach
um-hum
because that's what our society becomes i mean we have a just a bunch of people
comes yeah
and i've and i've i've lived in that that environment for quite a few years when i was doing construction work
you know and these guys they come to work every morning and they're stoned to the bone
i mean their so high they could fly up to the top of that building
and they work all day and they go home and they smoke their dope and drink their booze and shoot their drugs
and when they run out of money they go down to the corner store and pop the guy on the head and take his money and then they go back to work on Monday
um-hum
and the kids of these people
sure they just think that's the normal thing to do don't they
are phenomenally
they're sociopathic
yeah yeah
and i worked in a first grade uh classroom
for one full semester
um-hum
and these kids were more foul mouthed than i've ever been
i had one kid threaten my life first grader
in the first grade
threaten my life told me that daddy's going to whoop me to death
oh no
you know and they flipping me the finger and all that
um-hum
and i just said to this kid i said you got two choices kid you can step into mainstream society or you can die
uh-huh
because you will eventually be killed
and you know i just i'm just totally aghast aghast at a what's going on
oh i know i know um i work in school
you know that's huh-uh something i do and i it really is i'm like you astonishing what the younger ages know and they react to what they see at home You know
if they see violence at home that's what you're going to get from the kids at school you know it really is
exactly
and that's kind of sad
well you can see it in the work place
you know
used to be when you had a
personality conflict you just you worked with it and you got through it
uh-huh
now
you know people get fired
or
what's even worse is they promote them into a position that they can't handle and let them get fired
yeah
or one thing or the other you look at another kind of society like the Japanese
you put
that many people on that small of a space they've learned to live together
okay it's in their culture
um-hum
and one of the things that's in their culture that i really think the major corporations should pay attention to is the fact that while Japan was becoming a great power financially
the people that worked for those companies
worked for the same company they worked for at sixty five as they did when they were eighteen
teen
and the company took it upon itself to find a position for these people
if they weren't fit for the job they were hired for they didn't just can them
they made a position for them some where
huh uh-huh
uh you look at uh Frito Lay my wife used to work for Frito Lay
as a typist
you know transcribing stuff into the computer
uh-huh
well she can type about one hundred and five words per minute
but she don't like it
she she just doesn't like to do that i mean she will
cause yeah
but you know her preference is to be in an office situation where her job is
