okay so what do you think
well i believe in capital punishment um and i i think
the way that i understand the laws right now they are only for certain crimes um i'm not sure exactly what they are i think rape and uh
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capital murder
yeah
the person gets killed you know
oh yeah that would be a capital crime yeah
yeah something like that but my problem with capital murder capital punishment is they don't carry it out
yeah i agree they
so if they're going to have it to me they ought to do it
i agree they uh
you know they people people been sitting like they had on 20/20 or 48 Hours one of them they had them on the man was twenty years waiting on death row
uh-huh
see that don't make no sense
yeah i think that we waste a lot of money keeping people in prison
yeah
that uh is not necessary
and now i think they ought to increase it to all these drug dealers
yeah have you ever been on a jury
huh-uh
i haven't either but and i you know i i have real strong beliefs in capital punishment but when it comes right down to it
yeah i i'm wondering though
they're not going to do it
that's my biggest problem is even if you give them the death penalty they appeal it and appeal it and appeal it and there's you know
right
but what if they're not guilty
huh
what if they're not guilty
what do you mean what have been
what if they truly are not guilty and they're convicted anyway
that's the whole system though isn't it
yeah see that's what
there are a lot of people that aren't guilty that's in jail
yeah
but you know
uh i i i don't know about if you if they was
like capital murder
and then if they were married then what would you do
yeah
i don't know you know like i said said i do believe in capital punishment but if i were sitting on a jury and had to make the decision i wouldn't want to have to be the one to make it
yeah
and i do agree that they keep people that we spend too much money keeping people in prison the jails are overcrowded if they're going to do well you know let's do it
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do it and get it over with
i don't know if i could i could probably it depends on the crime my problem would be that like people to me the like the child people the people that's killing kids
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uh the ones messing with old people
yeah
those type of people now i i have no pity for them
yeah
you know but just like if a man and wife is fighting and he kills her that he shouldn't die because it might been accident or you never know what you know what what they done went through together should i say
yeah but i don't know if they if they if uh the death penalty
i don't think they give them the death penalty if given today anyway
yeah yeah i don't think they give it to just
i think they just put them in jail and let them think about it
yeah for a long time
so i don't know
uh
i definitely think anyone that kills somebody should be in jail i don't think everybody that kills somebody should die
yes
die because it all depends
so under the circumstances
there's a lot of circumstance sometimes i even feel like and up in another state i think it was Ohio where they don't have uh
self-defense laws and i think that's wrong
is it i i'm from i've lived in Ohio and i didn't realize that
yeah they had them on the news this lady her husband she was seven i'll never forget it because she was seven months pregnant and he hit her in the stomach and then tried to cut her throat
um
oh my gosh
well she shot him and she went to prison
she you know she killed him but she lost her baby and then they sent her to jail so that's not right
um
huh-uh
they she's nothing should have happened to her at all he shouldn't have hit her in the stomach i don't care
well see he shouldn't have been trying to slit her throat anyway
but he did both
yeah well i wonder why did they say why
well he was he he she was abused woman he was he was a a what do you call it abuser he would he would beat his wife all the time
oh
so there was a history of that
oh yeah
so she's not going to get to have her baby
she no she lost the baby
oh okay
he hit her in the stomach with the shovel
oh
it's just you know things like that that you know i don't think those women or even a man because a man they had a woman man that his wife shot him but he didn't die
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and uh they put her in jail now i don't think anything should happen to him but i think she should stay in there because really she just did it because she wanted to get out the marriage and she wanted all his property
uh-huh
see i think that's wrong too
but i don't
cheaper than a divorce
no she she wouldn't have got no property see there was no grounds for divorce she was she wanted out cause she had a boyfriend and it was weird but uh the capital punishment i don't know actually what they give the death penalty for
yeah
um
the only thing i i know they give it for is shooting a killing a cop or you know assassination of the President and and something big you know
yeah i think capital crimes uh capital crimes and i want to say kidnap i don't know why kidnapping sticks in my mind but um
uh-huh
i don't know
yeah i think they should give it to them but i don't think they should keep them waiting in jail and let having us pay for it for twenty years
no if they going to give it to them i think they should go ahead you know okay maybe a year or you know like that two years whatever but twenty years ten years on death to me that's worse for them too
yeah
they're not they don't know when they going to die they know they got the death penalty but that don't mean nothing not anymore
well i i assume that you live in do you live in Texas
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i think Texas is very uh one of the leading states i mean i think Texas executes more people than just about any other state
i don't know
they don't they don't put it on the news or they don't broadcast it because you know the i guess they don't just don't
well they they they they don't sensationalize it anymore they used to make a big deal out of it every time it happened
uh-huh
oh yeah all the people for right uh life or something
and i think now that it happens more frequently than we know that it's just not sensationalized as much at least in Texas because i hear every once in a while i'll hear something on the news
yeah
yeah
i
but i think they going to have to do something
to make people wake up like on especially the drug dealers
you know the the not the little penny ante ones on the corner i don't think they ought to get in trouble
i mean i know they ought to get in trouble i'm not they ought to get in trouble but not not death because see they you know we're to me what they ought to do if they can find the big man
but they ought to get yeah i was
because see that's where it's coming from to me it it's coming in here some kind of way i don't care what anybody tells me people tell me i said if the government really want to i think it's all government something to do with the government i really do
they
because if you can stop uh Cuban cigars from coming you can't buy anything Cuban
in the United States so why can't they stop anything illegal
yeah
hum
you know if they really wanted to i think they could they just don't want to put there's too much money people's been bought out you know and that's what's wrong with some of the kids on the street
yeah
they you can't blame just like the man says he can make two five hundred dollars a day
for just taking a bag somewhere
uh-huh
and his mom is not getting that much money
hum
you know if you think you think about all the kids in the ghetto
my mom would probably kill us but
but uh you know it's something that has to be done to me if they bring kids into it because now kids are killing and so they going to have to do something with the death penalty or to scare these people i think that's the whole thing they're not scared they know they're not going anywhere
yeah
well yeah i mean when when you think about it
yeah when you think about how many people die from drugs you know ultimately
uh-huh innocent people not just the drug people i'm talking about innocent people when they have they little drive by shootings and and and see because i'm from Los Angeles
oh yeah
um
see originally i've been in Texas twelve thirteen years
but originally in LA they people die all the time just from being in the way at the wrong place you know see you know but i think something should be done for them
yeah
um
yeah
so
i agree
but i don't know too much about the death penalty
i think that that they have much i like that they've changed it to lethal injection rather than you know the electric chair or gas
yeah but they don't use that no more
no they don't
they use the the injection thing or whatever it is
yeah i think that's a lot more humane than uh than the electric chair than the than the gas or the gas
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it's funny because i had listened to a comedian talk about the death penalty you know about people saying they they don't have nobody to do this and i said well if somebody killed my husband just because
i'll pull the switch
i'll even do you know to me if if that person can forgive them fine but what is that man going to do next is he going to go out and kill somebody else
kill right
you know how many times is it going to take for this man to kill people before you kill him
yeah
now you know sometimes i can understand maybe if they robbed something they didn't mean to do it okay but how many times you going to go by that how many times you going to this person keep killing so i don't know
uh-huh
yeah
i guess if you stay out of trouble you don't have you worry about it but
well it's like you said though sometimes people just get caught up in it innocently but
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so i think it just i think it depends on the circumstances and
how many times that person has been in trouble i mean really big trouble
yeah
yeah
you know so
yeah
but that's all i got to say
okay
and it is nice talking to you all righty
well it's nice talking to you i'll have to start doing this again some more i i don't know what i've tried it several times with
oh it's fun i call
