uh
yes i do believe that there is too much immigration now
well yeah a well yeah living in Texas especially i see it and and
did you
well it's not just that are there enough jobs for people here now
no no it's terrible
and yet they're letting more people in daily
yeah from everywhere too not just from Mexico you know just everywhere
yeah yeah i wasn't talking about just Mexico i was talking about Europeans the Eastern Block uh
it's terrible
yeah yeah i
there's and there's nothing we can do about it
the government seems to do as they wish when they wish
yeah they don't ask us do they no you know and it's really hard i think on the immigrants because they come over here
all they you know thinking that they're going to have money and jobs and success and everything and then they then there is no jobs and they end up homeless and not knowing anybody and no money and it's terrible
yes living under a bridge so to speak now it's true though that the bulk of of immigrants
yes
are successful
really and true how how how how do you figure
uh i saw it on the news uh i saw it on the news yes the bulk of immigrants legal immigrants to this country are successful you know they pay to end up as tax paying citizens
did you really
making uh
above middle class income whatever that is in the the united states now
probably more than what i'm making maybe i should become an immigrant and go somewhere else
well yeah you work for TI
uh they say that's due to their work ethic
now i don't know if that's true or not it just might be a matter of luck
well
but then America always has been
for the immigrant
yeah well uh you know if it hadn't been for that i guess i wouldn't be here because my family came from France and uh one side and one side came from Germany so
huh none of us would
yeah
there you know there's only a very few native Americans here
and then they're treated rotten the actual Native Americans the Indians well they've got they they've got the worst deal around
yes they are
well most of them you're right but then i drive through Riodosa
and i think well not all of them have it
desperately bad
i've never
you know you've you've driven by
you know the Mountain Gods outside of Riodosa haven't you
i've never been been out there
oh it's beautiful country up there in the mountains of New Mexico
uh-huh
oh just just gorgeous and that inn is huge and
but now uh like i say
that one tribe is the exception not the rule
yeah
you know most tribes were treated dreadfully
yeah oh and still are
and still are yes
you know don't have good jobs and living on reservations alcoholics and oh it's terrible it makes me really ill but i've never even been to Colorado
oh a native Texan
no a native Californian but a twenty year Texan i've been here twenty years so
oh
well i'm i'm i'm a native born Texan but uh you know how it is
yeah yeah
we go where the work is
that's true that's true well did you start with TI out here and then go to
uh in Lubbock
and oh okay and then went to Colorado
yeah in seventy four
so
so yes i am i am a long time TIer
so do you see a lot of uh well let's see what's in Colorado do you see a lot of immigrants of any kind like like we do here
uh
the ones we see are Americans by marriage a huge number here in Colorado Springs there's an Air Force base and an army base
uh-huh
so there's
people that marry GIs Korean Americans German Americans uh a few Japanese
oh okay yeah
few Chinese you understand
yeah
yeah but then you know too on a it's uh of course what i think about when we talk about immigrants i know they're coming from everywhere but i think a lot about
coming from Mexico because i guess i'm so close to that and if they close the well the borders are closed basically i mean they're but we get all these people that come in illegally and stay
yeah
well that's not really immigration
well no that's true it's not but it is i mean they're coming i mean we've we've got
yeah
yeah you can't stop them and once they're here to some extent we support them
they're supposed to have all these laws passed where people aren't supposed to hire illegal aliens and all this and whether that's working or not i don't know because i don't hear anymore about it
i don't either but uh what i suspect is that illegals were hired
for a hundred and fifty years of Texas history i don't think they can stop it by a federal edict
i don't think the federal government can stop it by making by waving their magic wand and saying it will happen no more it's just too inbred in the culture you know
yeah
i grew up in Dumas and Lubbock and uh every roofing crew was illegal
i know well all the restaurants here too at one time now it's see how i'm not in the restaurant business anymore so i really don't know but at one time
the whole kitchen crew and the busboys and everything were all illegals in in most of the restaurants i worked in as a waitress you know it whether that came to a halt i don't know
sure
see uh
still some migrant labor is legal
you know
in California i know it is
it is in Texas too
is it too in Texas also i i didn't know
yes yeah during cotton harvest and whenever the the uh tomatoes and all are
but see they'll come in and do work that other people won't do now i don't know about this day and time when there's so many people out of work i know if i was out of work i'd do anything to make money
well
because it's pretty scary when you own a home and you know
well the truth of the matter is i don't know what your home payments are but you couldn't make a living on what they earn
you could
you could not
you could not
have you seen how those poor people live
huh-uh
migrant labor camps oh my God they live in cardboard boxes
oh it's horrible isn't it
and these fine Americans take care of them
um-hum see and they put their children to work and everything don't they
and i
yes
and i don't hold it against the people
no
they're hard workers trying to make it
and no one and see Americans wouldn't do it wouldn't they wouldn't live like that
no
they wouldn't do it
no they'll they'll ask for a handout first
you couldn't get the street people i was just going to say you couldn't get these homeless people probably to do that
i see them on corners with signs saying i'll work for a meal but i'll bet you if you stopped and you offered them a meal if they'd come and do your yard they'd get out of it some way they just really would
no no what they're doing is they're asking for handouts
that's right
that's right
because if you took them into your home to to work in your yard or whatever they'd know where your house is and how to break in then
i know it
or
now that's not true of all of them there are
but how do you know the good from the bad
i i don't i don't know but i'm sure that times being as hard as they are
and times are hard
not everyone's that way
you know good people are being put out of jobs now
oh yes how well i know i was laid off last year but i was i was lucky because i was one of the first groups to go
from TI
well in in division one and i got uh went right to you know they have the job centers for us and everything and i just
oh so you don't
oh and you got transferred to a different
right
oh boy i worked hard through i went through the J O B's and found this and was versatile enough had a little bit of office experience and they hired me and i was just real thankful and now there's nothing
for all the people who are getting laid off now there's just nothing
yeah i've i've i've noticed
you know i know Colorado Springs has been hit also
uh rumors still persist i try not to believe them and listen to them but they still persist that the plant will close
i don't know i haven't heard anything i don't hear much about Colorado Springs it's kind of like they're kind of trying to be invisible forget about us forget about us
yeah so you're in division what now corporate corporate okay yeah that that must feel somewhat safer
i'm in in i'm in payroll division nine yeah corporate payroll so
it didn't for a while there were a lot of rumors flying and uh i still hold a red badge and it's still uh i'm still under five years so if they had a layoff in division nine
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