okay
there we go
well uh what do you think about taxes do you think we're paying too much
yes and no income tax no i uh i look at it this way uh you've got to pay for the privilege of living here
um-hum
but uh
being a uh a rec vehicle owner well in fact i live in a motor home
i'm a full what they call a full timer
and uh it burns gas like crazy i only get seven miles to the gallon
i really resent this fact that they keep adding on gasoline taxes and they call it uh
uh what's the word they use anyway a luxury a luxury tax
yeah
they gave add it on on to tires and gasoline cigarettes liquor
and it doesn't bother me any because i've quit drinking and i quit smoking
so that doesn't bother me but i don't think it's fair it's it's too um
yeah
um it's attacking just certain people
how true
and even with the gasoline tax
yeah well gasoline especially in this part of the country we all use it all the time you know it's
that's not what i would consider a luxury
no uh fifty years ago the automobile was a luxury but it's a necessity today
and uh as hard as they try to get these
public transit things going i have never seen nor heard of one that uh really really got of the ground
yeah
or that accomplish what they set out to accomplish to accomplish
what are your feelings on it
well um i i think that we probably are paying a little too much tax considering what we're getting for it and
how it's being managed and so forth i mean i i think there could be a better system and we would get more for our money
it's totally out of our hands so we don't we can't really do a whole lot about how that money is spent and where it goes and and
yeah that that's that's so true i mean they say well you voice your opinion uh uh uh on election day
but not really
no you don't look what happened on the last presidential election
read my lips
and what happened they turned around and double crossed us
yeah
so uh i mean you you can't believe what you what you hear
well i think too one of the things that rubs me the wrong way the most is those programs that are funded by Congress and
that
don't seem to have any validity at all i mean they're always far out and
uh you know they're studying some
obscure
uh bug you know in some other part of the world or some such thing and and our tax money pays for those things and i think that's wrong
oh
uh yes
i
i agree and and uh
uh i also think we extend too much help to other uh countries we need
enough help here in this country
that's right
they're still people starving people here why should we help starving people somewhere else
yeah and i think here lately they've
been saying quite often and maybe somebody's coming to realize that we're the nation in trouble
absolutely absolutely
now i can't wait for uh i i could just picture what's what's going to happen here in the not to distant future
we keep hearing well we're going to receive uh eight billion dollars from Japan for the uh
uh uh the
uh uh the the the big war over there in the Mideast
the war
um-hum
and uh so many billions of dollars here and there and everything and uh
the next thing you know we'll be turning turning around just like we did to Poland and say well just forget it
yeah
and i think that's a mistake
somewhere somewhere you know we have to realize that we can't just keep giving it away
oh definitely
well another thing now they they keep the
decontrolling different things first it was the airlines then it was banks and and uh um savings association and what not
we know what trouble they got into
exactly and the same with the airlines back in the days when they were uh controlled
and and uh uh transcontinental or um um um um interstate
uh trucking
i mean as soon as the uh the federal government gave up control on all that they just went to hell in a hand basket
yeah
uh prices went uh sky high
you know in the in the case of airlines of course they became highly competitive and they cut each others throats until they're they're reach the point where they're cutting their own throat
and uh well of course that's getting away from taxes isn't it that that's government controlled
but um
well i i think another thing too that um i've had a little contacted with
uh in regard to taxes let's say that um you have something that the IRS
disagrees with or you know says hey we're not going to allow that well i think they're very unfair in the amount of
penalties and interest that they can attach to that
because you you will not only pay back that that you wrote off but you will at least double
that amount and
oh by the time you get through with the uh
yes and that's to me there's something wrong there you know
the penalties
yeah i mean i can see paying the interest and some small penalty but they really stick it to you big time
uh i agree i think the IRS is uh just too powerful
there should be some sort of a control on it
and they should be a little more humane
um-hum absolutely
uh the um well typical bureaucratic i guess
uh that's that's one of my pet peeves
i came up with a brilliant idea how we could reduce the uh the budget
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very simple give uh uh uh government employees the average number of of uh holidays as the uh
uh the private industry
yeah
i mean you think about it now they they get about sixteen holidays a year
that's a lot
it sure is and i think here at TI we get what is it nine or ten
well i haven't counted
i i would have guessed eight even but you might be right i don't have any idea
well i remember uh thinking i think it was the last time i did hear that we get about the average maybe even a little more
a day or so more than the average
yeah
but uh government is ridiculous
wow
just think of the money they could save
i mean they're they're paying out this money anyway
yeah
why not get the work out of the people
yeah
and well anyway that would of course eventually come back to taxes
but uh as far as income tax is concerned i can't complain too much about it um
i'm single i have no
uh dependents or anything my children are all grown
and they're out worrying about their own income taxes
yeah
well i i have another thing that i thought about too um
for instance when you try to save money and you earn interest on whatever your investment is
and you know we're not typically talking about big dollars but
here you feel like you've you've done something good you've you've earned your interest and then you have to go back and pay taxes on it
so the real amount of your savings on that is is not much
um very true that's
you know it's kind of a vicious circle there
and then they tell you to uh well invest it in uh is it IRA's or something and and when
and then they took that away as far as
when you turn
being
when you turn sixty five why then you pay the tax on it
and the tax is a lot less
yeah
but in the mean time you used used them
you've got your money tide up
in a low relatively low interest
uh bearing investment
i mean it's not making ten fifteen percent like a business is today
huh-uh
um me i'm a firm believer in that if you got it spend it
well you can come over to my house and spend it
well you
i wish i had some to spend
well do you do you need some help spending yours
no no i don't i just don't have any
oh
oh uh-huh well that's my problem too i'm i'm trying to figure out from one payday to the next whose going to be the lucky one this month that's going to get paid
yeah that's the way it goes
well i guess we probably talked just about long enough
um-hum
yeah
uh let me ask you something did you get a catalog or something from these people yet
yes
you did
uh-huh
i've everybody i've talked to has received one and i haven't gotten mine
i don't know
um
well anyway Ellen it was nice talking to you
you too
and uh until next time
okay good-bye
bye-bye
