hell air pollution tends to be a a topic that uh
some people have a lot to say on and some don't care much for it at all but uh i found that there's there seems to be quite a bit that the individual can do as far as air pollution and one thing
it kind of hits the old pocketbook a little bit but if you can just keep the automotives vehicles going properly instead of uh letting them rundown and use a quart a oil a mile like some of these smoke cars do
that would uh make quite a difference we all seem to have one or more of those things and then we have a variety of people at least in this part of country that uh love their fireplaces
and we burn off an awful lot of uh acreage of wood and put it up in smoke and on a
proper day as far as the temperature goes you can have a cloud of smoke hovering other a neighborhood that's just sickening really i mean it may be pleasant inside but it stinks outside
so uh little things like that uh an individual can do what what else do you think they can do
well you know i i think fireplaces are great but you know you really don't have to have wood
yeah that's true
you know i mean fireplaces their great but you can get you know one hundred percent clean burning natural gas in your fireplaces and i mean you know most of the fireplaces are for ambience anyway they're not that efficient
yeah that's true
they they really are but but uh i live in a place where cars
are are i mean you know you you you see a picture of the freeway here in the Bay area and you know at anyone given time you'll see you know
maybe four out of a hundred will have more than one person in the car
um
so i'm i'm a real proponent for mass transit there's there's just uh uh you know there's just no reason on a regular basis for someone having
you know to uh if if if we just did our mass transit better and longer and more complete you know
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around the Bay area here we got uh uh system here called i don't know if you've ever been to the Bay area uh it's called uh
no
BART Bay Area Rapid Transit and they uh um
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uh connect Berkeley with San Francisco with Oakland and and
a couple of other cities but if it were to go to complete completely around the Bay and when you ever you get on BART BART's just absolutely wonderful because it's fast it's clean it's really efficient and it's it's actually fun to ride
but uh it's just you you know it's its its been half assed and uh they need to completely uh you know
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make the system so it goes completely throughout the the Bay area a lot of people would ride BART but a lot more would
make it
right
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if uh and i think that alone that alone would just cut down so immensely on that we've we've also i mean the fact of the matter is is that you know they've just got to find other fuels
that's true yeah
and and and and go other routes our our our i think basically our air pollution is one of the one of the uh oh
uh
oh
one of main side effects uh or or or or you know one of those visible symptoms of the US energy policy period and our energy policy is just nil just is nonexistent
and uh if we had one
you know striving to meet certain standards and certain goals and really to push it and uh let the corporations and the yeah you know the the automobile manufactures and stuff it it it just keeps sliding
i i think it would make a big big difference it's just it you know it just hasn't hit people yet that we may have crossed the line
right
and that line being of of uh you know a a a a planet that's going to be able to continue to live or it's gradually already dying and it will not be renewable i mean we may have crossed that line
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and it will be up to our kids and maybe their kids to you know
to find out
right
and things will live on this planet but humans may not be able to anymore
right it may not be us yeah we have a um they happen to use about the same abbreviation for the Dallas area they use Dallas Area Rapid Transit for DART and uh
uh
DART's problem here the you know the Metroplex itself suburbs and all it it's a pretty hefty uh distance from one suburb to the southern suburb so they they run uh
they gather the monies from the other counties and the other suburbs and and run the DART system throughout the suburbs to downtown Dallas as it were and it's a good
forty or so miles in each direction just about and they also try to run city to city with you know around locally the only problem is for me to go to work i live um
less than ten miles from the front door of my my uh place of work and for me to get there
it would take me an hour and a half of three different bus transfers and that's just ridiculous can't get there from here and it's a large place i mean we're talking about
oh that that that's terrible i mean that really is you know
yeah
Texas Instruments thirty thousand people in the whole area right and then my building inside it's fairly large and there's no reason for me to have to go from point A to point B in an hour and a half
yeah
when i can roll that old beast of mine down there for a lot less than that
sure
plus it would cost me oh i think the last time i looked at it was about had a dollar fifty one way
and i said no i'm not going to do that fast isn't that bad yet
yep
so that part's one problem i i wonder about the whole CFC issue i've i've read some papers from some
some scientist that don't get published that well because of their opposition to that saying that they're really not sure that the CFC's are the main problem yes we have a ozone problem but is it
well i mean it it it is a fact uh the the CFC's do act like i mean it it it's it's like a billiard ball you get a CFC up there high enough you know it's a it's in the ozone layer
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it doesn't just breakdown one it's not a one to one reaction it's it's a catalytic thing and it it actually just rumbles around and around and and breaks up every C O you know O O O three molecule it hits
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and uh i mean
well they weren't negating
whether whether it is the main contributor or not it's uh you know i i think no one can doubt the fact that it is
you know i mean it's it's a bad thing
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it's a real bad thing and it's just you know i think it's so many of these bad things some little really don't contribute that much and some just insignificantly but uh you know i i heard something the other night that absolutely floored me
i'm a i'm a i'm a space enthusiast and just absolutely uh am absolutely crazy about the solar you know and think that we ought to put as much money as we can possibly get into the to the space program and i found out the other night
from an Australian scientist one of the most respected uh scientist in Australia
that every time
i the US shuttle goes up
it dumps more than what is it a hundred tons of these fluorocarbons into the ozone layer it is probably responsible our US shuttle
um
that's interesting
breaking down the ozone layer each flight could bring it down as much as one tenth
that's interesting
and it's the solid rocket propellants
great
parts of the system
if if it were to be jettisoned lower you know before it got up that high
huh
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uh it it it it it really wouldn't have that great of effect but what happens is it goes all the way up through into the ozone layer and then it keeps firing and dumping and i just blew me away
yeah that that's an awful lot
yeah uh and it's frightening and and and a couple of these scientist down there have been screaming about this for some time now and of course uh Australia is the one that's going to
you know suffer the most because uh that main whole that's over
the uh Antarctica continent continent you know uh it it expands out over Australia and at certain times of the year
right
you know there's absolutely no ozone protection whatsoever in Australia in the last in the years of the shuttle the uh uh the skin cancer and and other you know uh
cancers in Australia have gone up you know so mething like like six thousand percent
yeah it seems like i heard that just this week on either CNN or somewhere that they they were talking about that
yeah they're they're they're so they're they're a little bit cross with the US and we could remodel that system you know
yeah
we don't have to use those as a matter of fact it wasn't designed that way initially at all the solid uh propellant rockets were a uh you know were time saving money saving afterthought
right
uh and uh i just you know i think it's just been uh uh uh
terrible anyway anyway but that that that that that that as an aside but there's another one of those things you know it's like so many of these little things
that that that add to it that i i just think this country not only this country but the world has kind of started thinking
that uh if we don't get it together here
