okay i uh i think in general that the the
uh one of the biggest change in in uh the role of women in the last
two generations is the fact that because of the uh
probably the national debt as a matter of fact but the uh impossibility of
of uh making ends meat even in a family that which has a two two parent family
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but many women work out of the home now
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and probably that is the biggest uh change of her role that she now has to
um not only be uh mother
um nurturer or whatever but she also has to to help earn the
earn the income that comes into the home
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and uh and it has
oh i i'd agree with you i think that is one of the big big changes
right
it has uh
uh
has a lot of effect on a family and it can be positive and it can be very negative
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uh
and uh i think a lot of the problems that we that we have in in school in education
a lot of the problems we have in drugs a lot of the problems we have in in uh
uh juvenile delinquency whatever probably can be laid right at that door
hum
because uh
a child who does not have the kind of underpinnings that you can get
uh with uh with a parent in the home whether it's the father or the mother
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uh it just does not have the same kind of opportunities as the one who does
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that's the kind of uh
what would it be uh uh calming influence or whatever
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uh i think another thing it gives them the feeling of of uh the importance of their position
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as a child you know and and course most of their problems come from uh lack of ego
yep
as opposed to too much ego
most of them uh do things because they either want attention or because they
they feel
that they're not worthy
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and so they they do things that they're not
not what the the norm would like them to do
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so that it is always kind of negative
yep
what what do you feel about how do you feel about the role of women being a man that make that gives you a different
well i mean i i i agree with you substantially i think uh
i think getting women because of you know declining standard of living we're not living as well as our parents did or making as much money um
and um that was probably to a degree true for them i mean it's no longer the case where um many people can afford to have one parent
stay at home and raise the kids or whatever so a lot of people are opting not to have kids or both parents are working and you got to rely on things like day care
that's right
uh to raise the kids and certainly that's not going to be as stable an environment as uh when you do have a parent at home
yeah i think that's probably
taking care of them and i i agree with you completely i think that's that's certainly having a lot of effects on our society
yeah i think so do do you have children
um
no i don't no i'm single
no
um but um
the i mean i think that's one of the major things and i think that's had a lot of side effects in the way women get treated in society
yeah
um
i guess one of the things that
we can concern ourselves with is is how
things are likely to continue to change uh in the immediate future
i i think that's probably true i think one of the problems is that that government in their
meddling tends to encourage that
yeah
instead of discourage it instead of giving you a break so that maybe a wife could stay home and do
yeah
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something satisfying in another area you know i i think there are women who need to do things other than just
be a mother but i think that's possible
right
i mean i don't think that education or anything else starts at school it starts in your head
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and any anyplace you are you can educate be educated
i agree with you i agree with you
and so it it doesn't mean they have to stop doing all the things that they might want to do and uh and so but
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but the environment
and i don't think it i don't think it even means that all women necessarily have to stay home and raise kids either you know i mean it should be optional
no no nor do they have to stay home all the time
right
there are lots of ways that they that you can do this but the but the problem is that they have so little choice
right well i'd like to see for example more flextime in the workplace i mean i think that would certainly help things
yeah
yeah i think that's right i think that would be good
um a greater acceptance of part-time jobs
right and have and have and and if if anybody is going to help them decide about uh about day care or something maybe it needs to be something worked out in uh in uh
uh
in uh um a workplace
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so that they can their children can go there so that they can see them so that they can have this uh you know during lunchtime or whatever
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some kind of a better uh contact and more uh a better feeling of of the fact that they are the important thing in this
household as opposed to the work
um
schedule being the important thing in this household
yeah i think there's also a lot of interesting side effects to women having taken a more prominent position in the workplace i think it's changed the workplace in in a lot of respects
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and uh interestingly enough it also seems to have shortened uh women's life spans so there's
i would imagine that's right
there's there's something to be said about you know all the stress related kinds of things that that happen when you do have a full time job
that's right
that's right it's not and and and the the problem is you see that it isn't just the stress of the work but they but they had plenty of stress before
uh-huh
now they're just doubling their stress and that's and that's really
that's right
uh really more than you can take sometimes i think that's true that's true i i think that uh
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uh
there are a lot of really positive things about the changes about uh uh more women going for for uh better educations and uh
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all these things i think in uh in a person's life there are a lots of
they have more freedom
right and there are lots of of stages of your life where you can do things that you didn't do
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uh at some other time that uh if you're better prepared you're going to be able to take advantage of those things maybe later or or maybe during sometimes
right
well i also think there's no longer sort of this predisposition that the woman has to be the caretaker and the upbringer for the children i think that's starting to dissipate
right
and i think that's good too i mean there's no reason why the father couldn't do it uh
yeah
that's right i think so too with
i i agree with you that i think someone needs to do it that's important
someone needs to do it that's the thing we just we just came from our son
just graduated from uh from in his Master's degree and his wife is a nurse and he had just graduated in social services work and uh
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uh when she went back they just had a a baby in January and when she went back to work she says okay i'll work i'll work five days
in two weeks but it has to be the times when he's home
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and so that one of them is taking care of this baby all the time but it's a neat thing to watch because he's as adept at it as she is
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and and equally as comfortable and i think that is a neat thing it it'll it'll be neat for the children too
if you can get a relationship like that but where the where the husband is comfortable
right yeah i think i'm
doing those things because children badly need more of that
yep well i i think it will help the kids be better adjusted when they grow up
badly need more of that
that's right badly more well hey it's been good to talk to you
yeah it's been nice talking to you too
yeah all right have a good day um-hum bye-bye
you too bye
