yeah so um what do you feel about the universal health insurance issue
well well i'm i'm not really very much in favor of it at all uh i i feel like uh the the government gets involved in in a little bit too much of our life anyway
and health insurance is is one thing that i'm i'm not sure that they have the expertise to
to run it anyway and i i just kind i kind of feel like like i say we've got too much government already
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i guess my my initial reaction would be that that i would be for it mainly from the standpoint that that i find um my health insurance not very effective and very expensive
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yeah
and so i you know am am probably being very naive i'm hoping that that by by centralizing it it might get better and be cheaper
yeah well i guess i i i i guess my my my my own opinion of of uh government programs in general especially those that
are centralized type you know centralizing type of programs i have not seen one yet that that that i i felt like really worked the way it should
i think that uh the private sector has uh a lot more expertise available and has the incentives to make a program work whereas a a bureaucracy
uh people that work in in a bureaucracy are just there to keep the bureaucracy going
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so uh i'm
what about uh things like in Sweden isn't isn't that sort of a centralized or in lots of places in Europe
yeah well i guess uh uh like i said i i i don't really know that much about it i i've uh uh mine may be more prejudice than opinion you know i i guess i've got uh
uh prejudice against the government you you know uh
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i i feel like i feel like too much government is too much government
right i you know i guess i can certainly agree with that
but um
you know like i said i feel i'm being uh being stung every time
yeah
yeah i i know that uh the British like i say i know i understand that the British system uh which is you know centralized medical program
does not work very well or at least the people are not real real happy with it
oh i see
and and uh i i that's my understanding anyway
um-hum um-hum yeah i knew they had one but i just i guess i assumed it worked which is is uh not a good
and uh you know
yeah
yeah you know when when you when you read uh uh uh see the some of the articles or or watch in particular watch some of the British made television shows
you get the impression that it's it's more or less a joke uh you know a lot of people use it because they don't have an alternative uh an affordable affordable alternative
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but they're you know they still it doesn't work very well i know in here in Texas in in the Dallas area we have a uh a county run hospital
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you know the county furnishes the hospital and people that don't have uh access to to insurance and stuff are able to go to that hospital
but if you go there if you're you know if you've got an emergency you have to be almost dead before you can get in like you know in a timely manner because there are so many people sitting there waiting all the time
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for medical services that you know if you may be there five or six hours you know for just normal treatment
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and and i guess i'm not uh i'm not too keen on having to go to a to a some kind of a location like that on on a routine basis
right
um-hum maybe i don't know much about HMO's but my impression is maybe maybe some uh HMO's are sort of a low form of centralization
well i guess uh to some extent uh an HMO i i have been involved have have been a member of an HMO before for a short period of time and and that did work very well
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but it was you know the company it was a company sponsored plan and and it it is you know individual doctors that do own or have a you know have a a shareholders in an HMO
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and uh so it's not i i guess uh it's not a it's not a government run operation and that's that's you know that's my main objection i you know i don't care how they finance it
right
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you know they could they could put a tax on me and say this is for medical insurance and then hire a you know some kind of private company that's not run by a government
to you know to run the program
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and and that might work but
if it's if it's going to be run you know and supervised
at at at a government level by a bureaucratic type you know operation
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uh i don't think it's going to work myself
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i do i do think that we're headed that way i think that there's a strong possibility that in in my lifetime i will see
uh you know see one
in operation so
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well i think i think that uh i think there only
that want it uh
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and i think the government
will respond you know to
when i say a lot of people i'm not saying a majority of people but i think the government will respond to that group that does want it
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you know so
you know you know i guess i i
well
i'm a i'm a pessimist in that in that respect
well but that's interesting because you know it's it's i don't know that much about it but my initial response would be more favorable and and perhaps i need to to learn more about it so that i'm not so naive on it
yeah yeah
well i guess and and and and perhaps mine too you know perhaps i i need to know
have stronger arguments for why are are or find out the the arguments in favor of you know so but uh
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but that's i guess that's i had not thought about before so
right well it was nice talking to you okay okay um um-hum bye-bye
yeah it was nice talking to you too okay thanks
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